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It does regarding each song or poem, but this fact does not mean that your saying "It's unlikely that a "song" as generally understood can reach to the extended seriousness or sublimity that poetry can" is correct, as this is a statement about the "song" as category. ---------Original Message---------- Peter Riley wrote: I think it also depends on the particular listener/reader. pr On 27 Oct 2016, at 14:54, David Lace wrote: Surely it depends on the particular song. Some songs I've heard (recent Dylan and Joni Mitchell) strike me as having more gravitas than most of what's in Poetry Review these days.