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This is a well observed point. It is quite important really. It really deserves a new discussion of its own. -------------------Original Message---------------------- Tim Allen wrote: The reader is problematic, but the mainstream approach simplifies the reader to a degree that matches its own aesthetic/ideology, while the avant lot, while recognising the problematic reader, seem to incorporate that problematic into its own practise but in doing so alienate the reader who does not see their roll as being problematic etc.