 |
 |
Probably. I certainly haven't. (And have no intention of doing so, though your hat-tip to Otway makes me look lingeringly in that direction.) Centilevre, I've only read The Basset Tables, and even that only because I had to teach it. I wasn't interested at the time, and at this distance I can't remember, but was there any Sharper's Jargon there, or in any of her other plays, or indeed any in this period? Cant and Criminal Argot are less likely in this context to be there, but ... there's a huge gaping 18thC sized hole in my head, as you know, Mark, when it comes to plays in that period, and I'm damned if I'm going to embark on a sustained course of what would no doubt be good for my soul, but time presses, etc., reading. So if you know of any play where the characters show signs of carrying Cotton's Compleat Gamester under their wig or concealed behind a fan, could you let me know? Pretty please... Robin > On 26 October 2016 at 01:57 Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > He was a god-awful poet. Am I the only one on the list who's read his > Gondibert? > > > ---Original Message----- From: Tony Frazer<[log in to unmask]> Sent: Oct 25, 2016 7:05 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Marlowe-speare Wasn’t WS Davenent’s godfather? (I’m aware of the by-law claim btw.) Tony > On 25 Oct 2016, at 22:56, Mark Weiss <[log in to unmask] > mailto:[log in to unmask] > wrote: > I've mentioned Davenant before, who claimed circa 1660ish to be > Shakespeare's bastard, which he certainly wasn't, but the claim conferred > status (tho maybe not to his mom). And I'm willing to bet that Shakespeare was > the most performed (and deformed) earlier English playwright in the > Restoration, with nary a word about Oxford, etc. > > > ---Original Message----- From: Robin Hamilton <[log in to unmask] class=""> Sent: Oct 25, 2016 3:25 PM To: [log in to unmask] mailto:[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Marlowe-speare Good question, dave, but I for one haven't got a quick answer. It's certainly possible to locate the beginning of the ... Actually, I was about to raise a name when I suddenly thought, maybe earlier. Then you've got the instantiation of Shakespeare as The Playwright by Garrick, well before the Academy sticks a spoon into the pudding. And probably the currency of English (as opposed to Latin/Greek) texts in Working Men's Institutions, and then the rise of the place of English in Real Universities, and ideas of the canon, and literature (or "literature") and ... Not really my scene. Back to you, me dook. Do your own bloody homework! Robin > On 25 October 2016 at 19:33 David Bircumshaw > <[log in to unmask] > mailto:[log in to unmask] > wrote: > > Just an aside here, and a wandering thought, but is there > a relationship between the adoption of Shakespeare as a teaching text and the > growth of the Authorship Question? The key objections to WS as author seem to > be low social status combined with lack of formal education. > > On 25 October 2016 at 14:03, Robin Hamilton > <[log in to unmask] mailto:[log in to unmask] > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes (and no) -- unless you're a born-again New > > Critic, in which case, the strait answer is, "It's a no-no!" > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > > On 25 October 2016 at 13:56 David Lace > > > <[log in to unmask] mailto:[log in to unmask] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Does it matter who wrote the bloomin' plays? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > David Joseph Bircumshaw > > The Animal Subsides > http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > http://www.arrowheadpress.co.uk/books/animal.html > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > http://www.facebook.com/david.bircumshaw > Tumblr: http://zantikus.tumblr.com/ > twitter: http://twitter.com/bucketshave > blog: http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > http://groggydays.blogspot.com/ > >