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Jamie:

      Pound, Canto XIII

Those were the days, my friend ...

Robin

On 25 October 2016 at 14:42 Jamie McKendrick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Let's leave it at that.

By the way, why...
Make up your mind, David. Do you want to continue the discussion? Or are you just seeking a further occasion to be insulting ('nit-picking') and to taunt ('Please get a grip of yourself')?
Jamie

On 25 Oct 2016, at 14:11, David Lace <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Jamie, your're doing it again. Please get a grip of yourself. I am quite happy with Mark Weiss's definition. Let's leave it at that.

By the way, why are you so eager to see a difference? Do you (along with the majority of literature critics) think song is not "worthy" of being treated as seriously as poetry, hence your need to create an artificial separation between poems accompanied by music and those not. Maybe this is the elephant in the room.






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Jamie McKendrick wrote:


David, you keep prohibiting the use of words which are inevitably involved
in the discussion, or cancelling them by saying they refer to something
'superficial'. And here, yet again, you seem not to have understood what
Michael has said.
Look again at his sentence and then at what you've made of it. There is no
relation at all.
  By the way, I have never used the word 'innate' in this connection -
perhaps you're thinking of 'inherent' which has a different meaning, from
the Latin inhaerare - to stick to. It doesn't seem to me especially vague.
Perhaps this will seem nit-picking to you - I'd call it trying to be
accurate, and mistakenly attributing words to people so as to shoot them
down inaccurate and unhelpful.
Jamie