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I think it confuses matters to mention “music” in relation to all of this, as it is accepted here (and I accept it) that one of the superficial differences between poetry and song is the musical backing used for the latter. It’s the inadequacy of such superficial differences being used to argue that because of them poetry is different in “essence” (Jamie would use the word “innate”— both words essentially are too vague to hang any cogent argument on) from song. Again, I think all of this is merely a category problem. ------------------Original Message--------------- Michael Peverett wrote: I've missed most of the topic, but I think I'm agreeing with Jamie and Judy in thinking that the meter of spoken poetry has long developed its own effects and artistry, which can't be put back into music.