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I've not been opening this thread as Business Management is not my sphere of expertise and hence not wishing to apply to JMU as an external, but I can't believe how many EE's they've asked for - must be around thirty emails; three EE's requested each time, and all in the same subject. Their expected Business Management course numbers must be massive. On 26 September 2016 at 10:13, Scott Maggie <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Agreed. Happy to keep one list. > > Dr Maggie Scott > Lecturer in English Language and Literature > Programme Leader: BA English Literature / BA English Literature with > English Language / BA English and Film > School of Arts and Media > Room 206, Crescent House, The Crescent > University of Salford, Salford M5 4WT > t: +44 (0)161 295 5552 | m: +44 (0)7572 105 785 > [log in to unmask] | www.salford.ac.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: External examiners discussion forum [mailto:EXTERNAL-EXAMINERS@ > JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Martyn Evans > Sent: 26 September 2016 09:40 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Liverpool John Moores University wishes to appoint 3 external > examiners for our validated BA (Hons) Business Management degree.- > > My thoughts exactly Harvey. The simple solution is perhaps the best. > > Professor Martyn Evans > Manchester School of Art > Manchester Metropolitan University > T: 0161 247 1292 > http://www.art.mmu.ac.uk/profile/mevans > http://twitter.com/martyn_evans > > On 26/09/2016 09:38, "Harvey Woolf" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > I can't help feeling that creating another list is generating unnecessary > work. > Why can't those who don't want to read the adverts hit the delete key > when ads rears their head, and the non-discussion folk do the same for the > ads? > > Harvey > > > On 26 September 2016 at 09:22 nwellman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Dan/Julian/Loykie > > > > The issue seems to be someone to undertake the migration then take on > > ownership (no, I'm not volunteering either- I'm retired). > > > > Neil > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > > From: "Wells, Julian" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Sent: 26/09/2016 09:09:55 > > Subject: Re: Liverpool John Moores University wishes to appoint 3 > > external examiners for our validated BA (Hons) Business Management > > degree.- > > > > >Setting up JISCmail lists can be done by virtually anyone with a > > >staff job at a UK HE institution, and it¹s quick and easy to do so > > >(no, I¹m not volunteering I own quite enough lists already). > > > > > > > > > > > >So setting up (e.g.) new EE-APPOINTMENTS and EE-DISCUSSION would be > > >straightforward (as should be migrating members to the new lists; > > >less sure about simply changing a listname). > > > > > > > > > > > >Julian > > > > > > > > > > > >From: External examiners discussion forum > > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of dwe robbins > > >Sent: 26 September 2016 06:29 > > >To:[log in to unmask] > > >Subject: Re: Liverpool John Moores University wishes to appoint 3 > > >external examiners for our validated BA (Hons) Business Management > > >degree.- > > > > > > > > > > > >Well said Loykie, > > > > > >I understand this point/suggestion has been raised before. However, > > >there is clearly a need to at least consider this idea again. > > > > > >While I don't know the technicalities of seeing up a new list, I am > > >also a member of a 'list server' group, http://biomch-l.isbweb.org/ > > > > > >This system has two advantages, firstly there can be categories, > > >which would help address the current issues. Secondly, the list > > >server sends out daily emails informing those who have subscribed to > > >a specific category which threads have been updated. This obviously > > >means users get less emails per day. > > > > > >I believe using the list server is free, it certainly is to members. > > >Non-members can view the forum/threads without joining, so the only > > >downside is the transition. > > > > > >Personally, I believe the benefits would outweigh the hassle. > > > > > >Regards > > >Dan > > > > > >Sent from my Fire > > > > > > > > > > > >On 26 September 2016, at 02:48, "Loykie.Lomine" > > ><[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >Colleagues, > > > > > >I have the impression that there may be a need for two distinct JISC > > >lists: > > > > > >one solely to advertise EE vacancies (as some people wish to have > > >this)one rather for discussions i.e. a discussion forum for EE issues > > >(such as the one below) Of course many of us could/would subscribe to > > >both -- but not everyone is interested in the latter. > > >Would this be a good step forward in order to avoid the sort of > > >tension, stress and unhappiness we just experienced? > > >Does anyone know how to set up a JISC list? > > > > > >Thank you, > > > > > >Loykie > > > > > > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>--- > >>------- > > >From: External examiners discussion forum > > >[[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Nigel Hudson > > >[[log in to unmask]] > > >Sent: 25 September 2016 23:21 > > >To:[log in to unmask] > > >Subject: Re: Liverpool John Moores University wishes to appoint 3 > > >external examiners for our validated BA (Hons) Business Management > > >degree. > > > > > >Thanks for that insight Zamanta., how patronising and condescending > > >of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On 25 Sep 2016, at 22:50, Samantha Rickenstow > > ><[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > >>Nigel > > >>Please do your research before you start shooting from the hip > > >> > > >>I quote from the JISC Mail site for this list "This list will > > >>provide a discussion forum for people interested in external > > >>examining issues". > > >> > > >>Currently we are discussing external examiners issues. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Zamanta > > >> > > >> > > >>On 25 Sep 2016, at 19:21, Hudson, Nigel <[log in to unmask]> > > >>wrote: > > >> > > >>Dear All > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Polite request. Please could this discussion move to a different > > >>thread so as to leave the External Examiners email free for requests > > >>for EEs only? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Thank you. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>Nigel > > >> > > >>Nigel Hudson > > >>Senior Lecturer > > >>Nottingham Law School > > >>Nottingham Trent University, > > >>50 Shakespeare Street > > >>NOTTINGHAM > > >>NG1 4FQ 5LP > > >> > > >>Tel: +44 (0)115 848 2197 > > >>E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > >>Skype: nigel.hudson.nls > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>On 25 Sep 2016, at 19:01, Samantha Rickenstow > > >>><[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Well said Abi > > >>> > > >>>Zamanta > > >>> > > >>>Cool Dude in a Loose Mood > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>On 25 Sep 2016, at 18:12, Hunt, Abi <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>Dear All > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>I don¹t usually comment on these discussions because they start > > >>>with good points and then descend into bickering about the function > > >>>of the list, grammar, and professionalism (so I¹m doing this with > > >>>trepidation). I would like to go back to the first response to this > > >>>call, which noted that yet again a UK university will only accept > > >>>External Examiners with prior experience. I have spent the last two > > >>>years trying to get an external examiner position with no luck. I > > >>>have lots of management and quality assurance experience from work > > >>>undertaken in my current institution, but just can¹t seem to get my > > >>>first external post. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>I think that some very good points have been made in the last year, > > >>>particularly the continuous calls from senior academics to make EE > > >>>positions more available for early career academics. So, I have a > > >>>question for members of this list: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>· Is there anything we can do as an academic community to > > >>>raise this issue in a wider forum (PFHEA network for instance) in a > > >>>bid to influence change? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>I look forward to seeing what you think. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Best wishes > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Abi Hunt > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>Dr Abi Hunt AMA, PFHEA. > > >>> > > >>>Head of Department for Marketing, Enterprise, and Tourism > > >>> > > >>>Lord Ashcroft International Business School > > >>> > > >>>Anglia Ruskin University > > >>> > > >>>East Road > > >>> > > >>>Cambridge > > >>> > > >>>CB1 1PT > > >>> > > >>>Email: [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] > > >>> > > >>>Telephone: 00 44 0845 196 5740 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>http://www.anglia.ac.uk/email-disclaimer > > >>> > > > >>>>#################################################################### > >>>>### > >>>># > > >>>To unsubscribe from the EXTERNAL-EXAMINERS list, click the > > >>>following > > > >>>>link:https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=EXTERNAL-EXA > >>>>MIN > >>>>ERS&A=1 > > >>> > > > >>>>#################################################################### > >>>>### > >>>># > > >>>To unsubscribe from the EXTERNAL-EXAMINERS list, click the > > >>>following > > > >>>>link:https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=EXTERNAL-EXA > >>>>MIN > >>>>ERS&A=1 > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>DISCLAIMER: This email is intended solely for the addressee. 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