Maybe not. I can only say that the majority of the successful (some big-scale) new young poets I come across up here or get to hear of (Kim Moore , Steve Ely, William Letford, Andrew McMillan... and a lot of others whose names I can't remember and didn't interest me) seem to be if not actual working-class (indeed I did use the term very loosely) very distant from the middle-class snooty stiff-lipped in- charge type which David mentioned. Maybe those who had local accents (which was all of them) gave me a distorted impression. P. On 2 Sep 2016, at 16:33, Tim Allen wrote: How ever did you come to that conclusion Peter? It's not true. It's not even near the truth - I think you should have tried harder to 'make the distinction'. Cheers Tim A. On 2 Sep 2016, at 15:30, Peter Riley wrote: > The tremendous outburst of young poets (some writing old poetry) in > recent years has been dominated by working-class people insofar as > you can make the distinction.