Yoad David Luxembourg wrote: —snip— "Whatever the activity of design is, it relies heavily on human cognitive ability..." and now there is this angle of the age of the colour blue. One of the biggest problems a designer faces is the fact that the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis still holds ... and it is never more clear than when trying to argue with a young design student, whose only way out, often, is to fall back to the position of "oh, but that is only your opinion" - completely missing the point that, if you do not have the words (sentences, concepts) in your language, then you cannot express yourself clearly, or worse, you communicate the "wrong" information, as Benjamin Whorf found out when investigating why so many factories were burning down - the "culprits" were the workers who flicked their "used" (read "safe") matches into "empty" (read "safe") drums that previously contained volatile chemicals of the "go-boom" kind. As a designer one can also realise from this example that "language" has less to do with the actual words (in your language) than with the need to communicate - even via sign language (tourist in foreign country trying to get directions to sites of interest). The minute the listener "gets it" - i.e., when you understand what the other is asking - then an English speaker can communicate with a Spanish speaker, or at least give it a good try. Whatever the activity of living is, its quality and meaning relies heavily on human cognitive ability ... to communicate via design is as easy and as difficult as trying to teach someone how to bake bread. Everything depends on the context within which the communication is taking place - and remember, "only communications can communicate" (Niklas Luhmann). As for the colour blue - that does not exist, young or old. Cyan exists, and so does process yellow and magenta: all the other "colours" we see in nature and try to imitate is always a mixture of the process colours, and unless we have the exact formula, we cannot speak of "blue" but have to rely on "words" such as - oh, you know, that heavy darkish blue that your Dad once painted the garage ... trying to establish context, which, again, might not need exact "words" (trying to explain the temperature of the fire in forging Japanese sword blades, the master craftsman said, the fire needs to be the exact colour of the rising sun). The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis: also known as linguistic relativity - think of innuendo, of propaganda, of gossip, all examples of deliberate linguistic relativity ("oh, but I never said that!") - or think of genuine word-mistaken identity, which can happen in one social group between different ages, between different social groups even though they speak the same "language", and between one group speaking English as a first language and a second group speaking English as a second language. This last example happens often in South Africa when people think in Afrikaans but speak (or think they do) in English. The end result is relative to the context-of-understanding of the speaker but not necessarily of the listener - which can lead to the silly question "Can an English designer do work for a Spanish client?" - the answer can be silly or quite serious. Johann On 7 July 2016 at 02:26, Gunnar Swanson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2016, at 8:08 PM, Terence Love <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Blue is newer than you think perhaps. > > Or the problem is that blue is proprietary: > > > http://www.lokidesign.net/journal/2016/2/22/the-propaganda-of-pantone-colour-and-subcultural-sublimation > > > Gunnar > > Gunnar Swanson > East Carolina University > graphic design program > > http://www.ecu.edu/cs-cfac/soad/graphic/index.cfm > [log in to unmask] > > Gunnar Swanson Design Office > 1901 East 6th Street > Greenville NC 27858 > USA > > http://www.gunnarswanson.com > [log in to unmask] > +1 252 258-7006 > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> > Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design > Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Dr. Johann van der Merwe Independent Design Researcher ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------