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That’s right -- it too is precisely what any decent sociologist or social researcher would do, if they haven’t been doing it for years already, as some of us have. That’s how we know [see the Lord Ashcroft findings for example] about the fine detail of the widespread alienation and can see that what people themselves say show its causes don’t lie in the EU but in successive government policies under the control of UK governments – who could deal with them if they wished, independently of the EU. Leaving the EU won’t address the justifiable alienation and current government policies may exacerbate it. That’s why listening to all the people doesn’t automatically lead to Brexit.

 

I don’t think anyone has said anything about controlling the information the public receive; quite the reverse. The public needed more information so that they could test the reliability of what the biased propaganda was telling them. I’m trying to make a point about openness and the value of information from all sources, with which it looks as if you would agree. Are you perhaps responding to some other polemical thread?

 

John VW.

 

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From Professor John Veit-Wilson

Newcastle University GPS -- Sociology

Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU, England.

Tel: 0044[0]191-208 7498

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www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/j.veit-wilson/

From: Social-Policy is run by SPA for all social policy specialists [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jan Macvarish
Sent: 27 June 2016 12:33
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Subject: Re: Referenda and statistical analysis

 

Sounds a bit of a closed loop to me. It would surely be better to get out and about and find out what people are thinking rather than try to control the information they receive.

 

Dr Jan Macvarish
Associate Lecturer

School of Social Policy, Sociology and Social Research

University of Kent
Canterbury
Kent, CT2 7NF
07909 993 007

 

 

 

 


From: John Veit-Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 27 June 2016 12:28
To: Jan Macvarish; [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: Referenda and statistical analysis

 

I hope so. Isn’t openness to testing and refutation precisely what natural and social sciences are meant to do? Neither of us wants the facts to be checked by only a politically-appointed committee.

 

John VW.

 

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From Professor John Veit-Wilson

Newcastle University GPS -- Sociology

Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU, England.

Tel: 0044[0]191-208 7498

email [log in to unmask]

www.staff.ncl.ac.uk/j.veit-wilson/

From: Jan Macvarish [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 27 June 2016 11:34
To: John Veit-Wilson <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Referenda and statistical analysis

 

 

Who would appoint the committee of academic 'fact-checkers' - self-appointed I suspect.

 

 

Dr Jan Macvarish
Associate Lecturer

School of Social Policy, Sociology and Social Research

University of Kent
Canterbury
Kent, CT2 7NF
07909 993 007