well, this is another sign that we have things in common and we are one. I truly hope you won't share this issue of the dressing code and so on with us though. :) thanks for the insights so far Laura 2016-06-28 10:59 GMT+02:00 Soo Downe <[log in to unmask]>: > Absolutely…! > > > > *From:* A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health > research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Gillian > Thomson > *Sent:* 28 June 2016 09:55 > > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: use of behaviours of operating theatres in labour wards > > > > Personally wish it was! > > Gill > > > > *From:* A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health > research. [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Lucia Rocca > *Sent:* 28 June 2016 09:53 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: use of behaviours of operating theatres in labour wards > > > > .....well life is certainly not boring in the UK right now.....😁 > > > Lucia Rocca-Ihenacho > > Lecturer in Midwifery and NIHR Research Fellow > > Centre for Maternal and Child Health Research > > School of Health Sciences > > City University London > > 1 Myddelton Street > > London > EC1R 1UW > > > > 07989 230313 > > Skype contact: luciainsky > > > > > > > > On 28 June 2016 at 09:30, Laura Iannuzzi <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Dear Soo > > thanks infinitely for that, this is exactly what I told this morning to > our coordinator, that first of all they have to provide the evidence! but > the reply was 'well we need to be prepared'... > > and you are absolutely right also in saying that actions are taken at > times without looking at the presence of robust evidence but following sort > of syllogism such as > > there is an operating theatre in labour ward= labour ward is an operating > theatre are= midwives in labour ward should behave as staff of operating > theatres.... > > > > strong of your suggestion, first of all I'll try not to give up in telling > that they have the onus.. > > > > life is never boring in the Italian system..... > > thanks infinitely > > laura > > > > 2016-06-28 10:14 GMT+02:00 Soo Downe <[log in to unmask]>: > > Laura, how about requiring those who are telling you to do this to provide > you with evidence that it will reduce infections without increasing > unnecessary labour interventions/CS?. If the organisation wants to > introduce something new, the onus is on them to prove that the new change > will be beneficial with no increased adverse unexpected consequences, > before you need to agree to take on those new practices. This doesn’t stop > you gathering your evidence, of course, but they must not introduce new > practices (which will also be more costly) without strong evidence that > these new practices will result in the benefits they are claiming. > > > > All the best > > > > Soo > > > > *From:* A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health > research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Laura > Iannuzzi > *Sent:* 28 June 2016 08:48 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* use of behaviours of operating theatres in labour wards > > > > Hello, > > In our hospital in Florence we have been asked to modify our 'behaviours' > in the labour wards and follow the operating theatre 'rules' such as > conforming our dress code in labour rooms and all labour ward areas (thus > not only when in the operating theatre within there) under the discourse of > infection controls and best practice. > > > > As the scenario seems that we are going to face a big step backward ( we > fought for years to remove all those things that were making our labour > wards like little operating theatres and midwives like operating staff for > the sake of women and families and normal of birth..) > > > > my request of help is on this: have you got any references, evidence and > anything relevant to suggest me to look at that can help in supporting the > fact that midwives do not need to dress and behave as in operating staff in > all areas and that is not impacting on infections while is crucial in > facilitating normal birth and all the connected themes (e.g. birth is not a > pathology, environment matters). > > this morning I was so happy for the fact that why I was looking for > literature I knew I had a forum like that can support, that it was even > more evident for me the importance of the network you created. thanks > infinitely for that > > > > Laura Iannuzzi > > > > > > > > >