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well, this is another sign that we have things in common and we are one.
I truly hope you won't share this issue of the dressing code and so on with
us though. :)
thanks for the insights so far
Laura




2016-06-28 10:59 GMT+02:00 Soo Downe <[log in to unmask]>:

> Absolutely…!
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> *From:* A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health
> research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Gillian
> Thomson
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> *Subject:* Re: use of behaviours of operating theatres in labour wards
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> Personally wish it was!
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> *From:* A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health
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> <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Lucia Rocca
> *Sent:* 28 June 2016 09:53
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> *Subject:* Re: use of behaviours of operating theatres in labour wards
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> .....well life is certainly not boring in the UK right now.....😁
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> Lucia Rocca-Ihenacho
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> On 28 June 2016 at 09:30, Laura Iannuzzi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Dear Soo
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> thanks infinitely for that, this is exactly what I told this morning to
> our coordinator, that first of all they have to provide the evidence! but
> the reply was 'well we need to be prepared'...
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> and you are absolutely right also in saying that  actions are taken at
> times without looking at the presence of robust evidence but following sort
> of syllogism such as
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> there is an operating theatre in labour ward= labour ward is an operating
> theatre are= midwives in labour ward should behave as staff of operating
> theatres....
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> strong of your suggestion, first of all I'll try not to give up in telling
> that they have the onus..
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> life is never boring in the Italian system.....
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> thanks infinitely
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> laura
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> 2016-06-28 10:14 GMT+02:00 Soo Downe <[log in to unmask]>:
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> Laura, how about requiring those who are telling you to do this to provide
> you with evidence that it will reduce infections without increasing
> unnecessary labour interventions/CS?. If the organisation wants to
> introduce something new, the onus is on them to prove that the new change
> will be beneficial with no increased adverse unexpected consequences,
> before you need to agree to take on those new practices. This doesn’t stop
> you gathering your evidence, of course, but they must not introduce new
> practices (which will also be more costly) without strong evidence that
> these new practices will result in the benefits they are claiming.
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> All the best
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> Soo
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> *From:* A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health
> research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Laura
> Iannuzzi
> *Sent:* 28 June 2016 08:48
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> *Subject:* use of behaviours of operating theatres in labour wards
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> Hello,
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> In our hospital in Florence we have been asked to modify our 'behaviours'
> in the labour wards and follow the operating theatre 'rules' such as
>  conforming our dress code in labour rooms and all labour ward areas (thus
> not only when in the operating theatre within there) under the discourse of
> infection controls and best practice.
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> As the scenario seems that we are going to face a big step backward ( we
> fought for years to remove all those things that were making our labour
> wards like little operating theatres and midwives like operating staff for
> the sake of women and families and normal of birth..)
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> my request of help is on this: have you got any references, evidence and
> anything relevant to suggest me to look at that can help in supporting the
> fact that midwives do not need to dress and behave as in operating staff in
> all areas and that is not impacting on infections while is crucial in
> facilitating normal birth and all the connected themes (e.g. birth is not a
> pathology, environment matters).
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> this morning I was so happy for the fact that why I was looking for
> literature I knew I had a forum like that can support, that it was even
> more evident for me the importance of the network you created. thanks
> infinitely for that
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> Laura Iannuzzi
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