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Just a final comment to the mention made in Pete Insoles note r/e the use of the mapping. Their appearance in a DBA, HA, etc would appear to be a potential breach of Copyright! We suffer from this ourselves with commercial users regularly ripping off our website mapping (modern and historic) for planning applications, DBAs and HSs in flagrant breach of the terms and conditions clearly set out there. I have been known to 'dob in' the worst offenders with the local planning authority and even the OS copyright unit (County solicitors can't be bothered even to write to them ...) Peter Iles Sent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message --------From: "Delaney, Liam" <[log in to unmask]> Date: 10/06/2016 09:54 (GMT+00:00) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic OS Mapping Thanks all for the comments. Has cleared it up for me. I’m not sure what the origin of our digital OS Historical maps are but I expect they are Landmark, the scanning quality of them isn’t high. I’ll check this out. Rectifying it myself wouldn’t be a bad idea and I could consider doing that. I’m a big fan of the NLS website for the OS mapping and I regularly point people in that direction, kind of why I was confused about the issues over the copyright for them. Peter, The British Library versions are they accessible online or would you have a contact so I could investigate what they could do for us? Higher quality mapping is always a better thing! Thank you again Liam From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of lancashire.archaeology Sent: 09 June 2016 18:09 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic OS Mapping Sorry I forgot to mention that the National Library of Scotland has some very well-scanned historic OS mapping with a significant coverage for England as well as their own patch. Unfortunately a few of the Lancs sheets suffer from the 'revisited version' issue noted in the last post. Pete Iles Sent from Samsung tablet. -------- Original message -------- From: Peter Insole <[log in to unmask]> Date: 09/06/2016 16:39 (GMT+00:00) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic OS Mapping We have Landmark copies, but now use historic mapping from the British Library that is higher quality and the georeferencing is better. The licence allows for non-commercial use so can be supplied to researchers. These maps are regularly used in heritage statements, DBAs etc usually taken directly from Know Your Place. Pete From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ben Wallace Sent: 09 June 2016 16:34 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Historic OS Mapping Hi Liam, welcome to the HER Forum! It depends on where your historic OS mapping has come from, and I assume you are talking about digitised paper versions. If, like us in Warwickshire, your OS historic mapping has come from Landmark then it will be under licence which makes it sometimes tricky to give out especially for commercial use. I can go into the complexities of this off list with you if you would like. However, if you have digitised your own paper copies of maps then you can do what you like with them. Any born digital OS data like Landlines or MasterMap will be covered by the PSMA although there are restrictions on how this can be reused by others especially commercial users (who generally need their own licence). The other thing is to forward people to online OS historic maps, in Warwickshire we have even managed to set up our own (http://maps.warwickshire.gov.uk/historical/) but that was very complicated and came from a desire from the record office and library service at the county council rather than the humble HER! Ben On Thursday, 9 June 2016, Dodds, Jason <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hi Liam. I believe the OS Mapping is covered by the PSMA (Public Sector Mapping Agreement), which we signed with the OS. And due to this for our use copying the Ordnance Survey mapping is fine. For commercial enquirers we do not supply the base mapping. Thanks Jason Jason Dodds | HER Officer t: 01924 306797 | e: [log in to unmask] West Yorkshire Archaeology Advisory Service , Registry of Deeds, Newstead Road, Wakefield, WF1 2DE www.wyjs.org.uk/archaeologyadvisory From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Delaney, Liam Sent: 09 June 2016 15:59 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Historic OS Mapping Hi All Sorry about cross posting, will be my first time! And apologies if this has been answered and discussed before but I couldn’t find anything on the website. I have an issue about the Historic OS Mapping and wanted to see how other HERs have dealt with this. I’d like to be able to offer the mapping as part of an HER enquiry but have been told that I cannot due to strict copyright. I know that some HERs do offer this service so I wanted understand how this can be. I was wondering how is it that some HERs offer this mapping? I assume the copyright is the same for everyone? If I offered the mapping with a strict policy that it can only be used to view for research and cannot be reprinted or republished anywhere, would that satisfy the copyright? I assume this is the same as a researcher can take copies away from the records offices. Thank you for any help at all. 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