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Dear Daniela,
now I am even more confused. You named the questions I would have asked as well ...

If the goal is to get rid of the BDII how can 'small' Vos such as 'belle'
which will be as big as ATLAS and CMS in a some yeras from now survive.

Regards,
Andreas

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniela Bauer" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: "LCG-ROLLOUT" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, 12 May, 2016 18:09:34
> Subject: Re: [LCG-ROLLOUT] WLCG VO tags validation in GOCDB

> Because the small VOs haven't got the manpower to write yet another
> interface to yet another database ?
> The ones I support rely heavily on the bdiis one way or the other to
> work out which resources are accessible to them and how much data they
> are allowed to store.
> I'm still wondering how we will get the queue names and other minor
> details in this new regime.
> 
> Daniela
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 12 May 2016 at 16:52, Gellrich, Andreas <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi *,
>> we were wondering why tags for other VOs which are important for at least some
>> sites
>> were not include. We were looking for 'belle' and 'ilc'.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andreas
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Maria Alandes Pradillo" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: "LCG-ROLLOUT" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 11 May, 2016 15:26:19
>>> Subject: Re: [LCG-ROLLOUT] WLCG VO tags validation in GOCDB
>>
>>> Dear Jeff,
>>>
>>>> This *includes the amount of work keeping tags in sync with other things*,
>>>> *integrated over all the site admins in WLCG*.  If there is an automatic way of
>>>> keeping things in sync (ie by inspecting ACLs) then this is preferred.
>>>
>>> Please note that there is a an automatic way to monitor whether things are in
>>> sync, but only the site can define tags (GOCDB admin defined the tags at site
>>> level, but the resources need to be checked by the site admins). And I think
>>> that makes sense. WLCG Ops or the experiments don´t know if a resource is for
>>> one VO or another.
>>>
>>> This is the first time we attempt to align experiments and sites view. Your
>>> feedback is very welcome. We haven´t discussed yet how regularly we want to do
>>> these checks, but if you think something can be improved, we are happy to take
>>> it into account for the future. In any case, I hope that if we find many
>>> inconsistencies the first time,  after a first round of cleaning tags and
>>> VOfeeds, inconsistencies should be less frequent. So I don´t think this will be
>>> much work for the sites.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Maria
> 
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