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On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:05 PM, MCLAREN, Donald <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> See in line responses below.
>
> Best Regards,
> Donald McLaren, PhD
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Joelle Zimmermann <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Donald,
>>
>> I'm coming back to this, just want to clarify something..
>>
>> I mentioned (in my email above), that improvements in performance across
>> time reflect decreases in neural activity (in a one-sample t-test).
>>
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> This was related to the -1 that you used at the first level.
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>
>>
>> Then, I go on to show that the slope of this relationship (between
>> performance and neural activity) is different in younger and older adults.
>> I'm wondering, since I show deactivations related to improvements in
>> performance in the one-sample t-test, is this also the case for the
>> two-sample t-test comparing young and older adults?
>>
>
> You didn't show deactivations are related to improvements. All you have
> shown is a negative relationship. This shouldn't be confused with activity
> below baseline.
>
> In the two sample test, you are comparing the negative slopes. If Y>O,
> then the negative slope is greater (more negative) in young compared to
> old.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Can I say that the slope of the relationship between performance and
>> specifically neural DEACTIVATIONS (since I show de*activations* in the
>> one-sample, not activations), is different by age?
>>
>
> No. You are looking at the slope. The slope does not tell you anything
> about the activations or deactivations relative to baseline.
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joelle
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 1:47 PM, MCLAREN, Donald <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> You can test if their slopes are different. The t-test you did was for
>>> the slope of the PM. You just can't use the phrase "closeness" as you are
>>> testing the slope.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Donald McLaren, PhD
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Joelle Zimmermann <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Donald,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help. Could you please clarify your second point?
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, I conduct a 2-sample t-test, forwarding the first-level
>>>>> PM contrasts to the second-level, comparing young and old subjects. Here I
>>>>> find young>old gives me some interesting task-related regions. Am I correct
>>>>> to say that young adults' neural activations are more closely tied to
>>>>> behavioral performance than for old adults?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No. You can say that the slope of the relationship is different, but
>>>> you can't conclude that the relationship is stronger as you only have the
>>>> slope at the group level.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a (another?) way to test differences between young and old
>>>> subjects in terms of how their behavior performance (parametric modulator)
>>>> modulates to their neural activations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Joelle
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 8:11 PM, MCLAREN, Donald <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> See below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Donald McLaren, PhD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Joelle Zimmermann <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi SPMers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am looking at the relationship between neural activity and
>>>>>> behavioral performance, and was hoping for some insight for correct
>>>>>> interpretation of a particular analysis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the first level, I have a model with my fMRI signal (first
>>>>>> column), my behavioral performance as a parametric modulator (second
>>>>>> column), and my 6 motion regressors. I am interested in the behavioral
>>>>>> parametric modulator, so I put a contrast over the second column.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I forward these individual subject contrasts to the second
>>>>>> level, and do a one-sample t-test to look at group, with t-contrast [-1], I
>>>>>> find certain task-related regions show significance. Would it be correct to
>>>>>> say that the behavioral performance modulates neural activity, with
>>>>>> improvements in performance across time reflecting decreases in neural
>>>>>> activity in these certain regions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, I conduct a 2-sample t-test, forwarding the first-level
>>>>>> PM contrasts to the second-level, comparing young and old subjects. Here I
>>>>>> find young>old gives me some interesting task-related regions. Am I correct
>>>>>> to say that young adults' neural activations are more closely tied to
>>>>>> behavioral performance than for old adults?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. You can say that the slope of the relationship is different, but
>>>>> you can't conclude that the relationship is stronger as you only have the
>>>>> slope at the group level.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Joelle
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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