Hi, 

I’m no expert on M-P translations but here is some textual support for the use of incarné and incarnation

Page 247 of the Smith Translation  in the Routledge Classics series has: 

'To say that it is still myself who conceive myself as siyuated in a body and furnished with five senses is clearly purely a verbal solution, since I who reflect cannot recognize myself in this embodied I, since therefore embodiment remains in the nature of the case an illusion, and since the possibility of this illusion remains incomprehensible’

The passage in Phénoménologie de la perception, Gallimard 1945 (coincidentally p.247) is:

'Dire que c’est encore moi qui me pense comme situé dans un corpset comme pourvu de cinq sens, ce n’est évidemment qu’un solution verbale, puisque moi qui réfléchis je ne peux me reconnaître dans ce Je incarné que donc l’incarnation reste par principe une illusion et que la possibilité de cette illusion demeure incompréhensible .’

So in this instance, one of the few where Smith uses ‘embodiment’, I think,  he uses ‘embodied’ for ‘incarné’ and embodiment for ‘incarnation’.

II haven’t read the Landes translation but a qucik look suggests that he translates ‘incarné’ and ‘incarnation’ in this pasage the same as Smith (although Landes apears  less stilted in this passage)

best wishes

Franc

On 20 Apr 2016, at 14:56, rich.m.gibbons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

A co-worker of mine (French father and fluent themselves) thinks the closest translation would be incarné, which follows on nicely with what Norman has said below.

Best Wishes,

Rich

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As a German speaker myself, I just want to add, that even when I write papers in German I stick to the English term „embodiment“ when talking about the paradigm. Maybe a mixture of “embodiment” for the general paradigm and suitable French words for explaining the ideas would be a solution?

Best wishes,

Birgit

 

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Being belgian and also reading french, I remember dat M.P. speaks about "le corps propre" (in the sense of the larger embodiment as in embodied cognition) and also about "corporeity"

hope this helps

John


On 19/04/2016 22:47, Norman Farb wrote:

I think Merleau Ponty used "Incarnation", but am admittedly not a high level Francophone.

 

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Adrian Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi,

Can anyone offer a suitable translation of 'embodiment' into French? Given that the word is so central to French phenomenology, I imagine this should be straightforward. Anyone?

Best wishes,
Adrian

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Hello Adrian

 

We will shortly be publishing a paper on HIV, violence and pathways of precarity in South Africa. Our French translator (whose background is more medical than sociological) is having problems with the translation of ‘embodiment’ into French. Could you possibly help – or suggest someone who could?

 

Many thanks

 

Pathika

 

 

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