On Apr 15, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Michael Gold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Ah but THAT was my point AGThe poem was a response to the hyper intellectual approach to the issue.It is ART that will change the way people understand the embodiment of leadership.Getting people to feel who they in collaboration with those who they work with is a powerful step towards understanding the empathy needed to lead effectively.
On Apr 15, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Arlene Goldbard wrote:Perhaps it would be useful to have a slightly less heady discussion of embodiment, in a slightly different vein than Michael has offered. Surely one of the points of this work is to enable human beings to bring themselves whole into professional and institutional settings, rather than going along with the too-common operating assumption that body, emotion, and spirit are left outside the door. When I give talks on this subject, I ask this question: What’s the worst thing you can do in a boardroom? The women generally answer first, and all it takes is one word: “Cry.” The critique of embodiment doesn’t have to be stated; it’s the default setting most of the time. Much more on this in my books The Culture of Possibility: Art, Artists & The Future and The Wave.all best,ArleneOn Apr 15, 2016, at 12:31 PM, Stephen Linstead <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Waur=Worse
On 15 Apr 2016 19:22, "prem saran" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:Michael,As a retired member of the Indian Administrative Service (which mans the top leadership positions in the Government of India), with an MBA from the elite Indian Institute of Management Calcutta as well as a self-reflexive [i.e. practising adept's] Ph.D in Anthropology from the University of California [Routledge, 2006] on the "embodied"/"somaesthetic" [vide the eponymous book by Richard Shusterman, "Thinking Through the Body", Cambridge University Press, 2012] as also high-philosophical Indic discipline of Tantra, I found your and David's responses to be the most sensible [sic].PremPS. What's "waur"?(Dr. Prem Saran, IAS (Retd)
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BY ROBERT BURNSComin thro' the Rye
[First Setting]Comin thro' the rye, poor body,Comin thro' the rye,She draigl't a' her petticoatieComin thro' the rye.[CHORUS.]Oh Jenny 's a' weet poor bodyJenny 's seldom dry,She draigl't a' her petticoatieComin thro' the rye.Gin a body meet a bodyComin thro' the rye,Gin a body kiss a body —Need a body cry.Oh Jenny 's a' weet, &c.Gin a body meet a bodyComin thro' the glen;Gin a body kiss a body —Need the warld ken!Oh Jenny 's a' weet, &c.[Second Setting]Gin a body meet a body, comin thro' the rye,Gin a body kiss a body, need a body cry;Ilka body has a body, ne'er a ane hae I;But a' the lads they loe me, and what the waur am I.Gin a body meet a body, comin frae the well,Gin a body kiss a body, need a body tell;Ilka body has a body, ne'er a ane hae I,But a the lads they loe me, and what the waur am I.Gin a body meet a body, comin frae the town,Gin a body kiss a body, need a body gloom;Ilka Jenny has her Jockey, ne'er a ane hae I,But a' the lads they loe me, and what the waur am I.On Apr 15, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Neelands, Jonothan wrote:Maybe we need to distinguish between the body that is the leader and the use of the body in leadership and strategy. Define different senses of the term embodied leadership so that we can see what people might be against? J
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On 15 Apr 2016, at 12:20, P Ibbotson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi,Jolly interesting question. Might be that "embodied leadership" is a bit of a tautology. You can't have leadership without there being a body to do the leading.The same might be said of friendship, so difficult to argue against.I have had conversations with data analysts and quants who say they would be happy to have algorithms making the important decisions because they are free from emotional and cognitive bias and can access vastly more data to collect evidence for their choices. They are comfortable with robot leaders but not really "against" embodied ones. Processes like six sigma and 360 degree feedback could be viewed as attempts to make leadership more detached and mechanical to avoid the dangers of narcissism and despotism that come with a focus on the "embodied self" as the leader. You could also argue that "embodied leadership" is inherently anti-democratic and puts the acts of the leader above the decisions of the collective arrived at through debate.
Piers IbbotsonPrincipal Teaching FellowWarwick Business School
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Subject: Harsh critics of embodied leadership?Dear AACORNers,Do you know of any explicit opponents to 'embodied leadership' and 'embodied leadership learning' concepts? I've searched, but can't find any...
Or would 'opposition' in this case simply amount to 'ignore that lot'? ;)
I'm relatively new to this field, so forgive my ignorance...
All the best,Fides
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