Let me just thank all artists who have over the past decades wandered into academia and made their mark in texts accepted as PhDs. Each of them be it Philippe
Mairesse, Admin Chodzinski, Anna Scalfi, Henrik Schrat, to mention a few in a probably much longer list, has meet a “real Academician” , e.g. Heather Hoeplf, Hugo Letiche, Antonio Strati or Dagmar Reichert, who has proved to be scholars by courageously curating
their dissertations into the complex institutions of higher education. Both groups can teach us so much and have already contributed a lot to make us move beyond where AACORN once upon a time boldly started to point where we are now ready to to the job of
rethinking business education in the spirit of the 2011 Carnegie Report.
To be an academic is to enjoy the generous company of peers. To be an artist, and I here beg a pardon to all us “peintres du dimanche” eager to show off our
soft spots to mainly ourselves, is to be dependent on the support and encouragement of curators, critiques, collectors and patrons. Worlds of Knowledge/ Worlds of Art; of course they are dirty and dark but also bright and pure!!!! As life in general eh!
Pierre
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Mary Jo,
knowing some of your texts (but not your artistic works), I do have a deep admiration for how you manage to do what you do. I have to say. (-;
Beeing a practicing visual artist myselfe - studied this and earn my living with it - I had (have) terrible difficulties in getting academia and art together. After finishing the dissertation (with Heather Hoepfl. We had such a great time) I decided that I
can not write double blind review papers all the time, I just cant. I love THINKING nevertheless, as a sensual activity. Good theory can be so erotic and breathtaking. Or the 'dry' methodology reminds me of formal painting discussions. But that approach is
not academic, at least not what is asked for usually. The attempt to write my thesis in the form of a comic died very fast in academic hurdles. Probably right so: Different types of knowledge, dont mix them, I would suggest the terms of presentational and
propositional knowledge, as Heron and Reason used it. STeve Taylor and Donna Ladkin wrote an intresting paper on the subject.
And so on. Thinking of Ralph in his Kajak I coule it be the difference of talking about the wetness of water in academia or taking a bath in the arts --- ?? Well...
On a pragmatic side, to venture into business academia did my professional art career much more harm than good.
Hey, what would a non-conference look like, an exhibition with music and theater - no papers this time, but the same crowd? How would the discussion arising from it - drifting unavoidably into academia - develope? Artonference. A certain stubborn instistance
is needed here, do develope this. I hated the crayons on the conference table on some point, but generally speaking I believe, the crayon way is not wrong. Just keep walking longer, with a serious intrest. Much longer. Into the crayon.
Henrik
www.henrikschrat.de
Am 20.04.2016 um 09:49 schrieb Hatch, Mary Jo (mjh9d):
Footnote to Rob’s post: Proust remarked, similar to the case made about Wallace Stevens, the stark differences that can occur between the embodied artist (the person you meet on the street or at a soiree) and the (perhaps disembodied?
Transcendent?) imagination that produces her/his art. Might it be the same for leadership? That embodied leadership is not the point at all, as the embodiment can cause one to miss the attributes of transcendent leadership causing us (academics) to misread
what leadership is?
Not exactly an academic, but definitely an artist who lived in-between two very different world…haven’t read the book, but looks interesting...
Dear all,
I too have been listening in for some time. On this new topic of artist or academic I have a few thoughts based on my personal experiences that might be of interest to some.
I have been for the most part serial in my commitments to artistic and academic pursuits. First I studied to be an artist (architect then poet/writer), then became an academic researcher (and writer) but only after working in a marketing job and doing an MBA
in finance. Now I am now pursuing a second career as an artist (oil painter this time). The red thread academically was that my research always had an aesthetic interest for me (organizational architecture, managerial humor, jazz as a metaphor for organizing,
the development of genres of painting as a source of insight into how organization theorizing changes over time). So in a way I guess I wasn't that serial, having mixed my research with my artistic interests and imagination.
On reflection, however, and as someone who worked (academically) on organizational culture and identity as well as branding issues, I propose the following:
1) that culturally artists and academics typically diverge considerably,
2) identify is tough to maintain in an in-between (liminal?) state, at least I find my artistic identity easily destroyed by my academic one
3) as far as branding is concerned, I can so only one reason why anybody would want to brand themselves an academic artist (to get or keep their job in a university), though an artistic academic has quite a nice ring to it
Cheers,
Mary Jo
Mary Jo Hatch
C. Coleman McGehee Eminent Scholars Research Professor of Banking and Commerce, Emerita, University of Virginia
Visiting Professor, IEDC Bled School of Management, Slovenia
International Research Fellow, Centre for Corporate Reputation, Said Business School, Oxford University
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Ralph;
the answer is YES to both propositions...but explaining why will bring men in white coats running across the fields....
David
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 09:58:56 +1000, Ralph Kerle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Aacorners,
I have followed this conversation with really great interest. It has been most informative. As I was kayaking this morning on Sydney's Middle Harbour practising my photographic art, a thought bubble popped into my consciousness.
Can an artist be an academic?
Can an academic be an artist?
I couldn't find an answer and seek this august bodies thoughts.
Kind regards,
Ralph
