medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Formally opposed to Calvinism…by I was wrong about Sweden, where the adherence to Luther was less pronounced (as witnessed by the number of translations and editions of his work). You can get an overview here:

The Scandinavian Reformation: From Evangelical Movement to Institutionalisation of Reform
By Ole Peter Grell (ed)
Cambridge University Press, 1995 
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On 13 Mar 2016, at 22:47, Cormack, Margaret Jean <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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Karen, 
Thanks to you and Anders for your comments. What do you mean by 'hard-core Lutheran'?
Meg
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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Dear Meg and Anders

I agree fully that the situations in Sweden and Denmark were much alike; any iconoclasm referred to in the sources were the short eruptions in Malmö - and Copenhagen, I should add (and perhaps very early in Viborg); but this was soon stopped as the Danish and Swedish kings were hard-core Lutherans.

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On 13 Mar 2016, at 18:26, Anders Fröjmark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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Dear Meg,
 
For Sweden there were rather few regulations, to my knowledge. A parliament in Västerås in 1544 outlawed some Catholic practices, including the use of monstrances and the cult of saints. There are also elements of iconoclasm known from churches in Stockholm, but the reformers very soon took a pragmatic stand. The Church Ordinance of 1571 (Laurentius Petris Kyrkoordning av år 1571) put forth an attitude of tolerance vis-à-vis inherited Church ceremonies. A useful survey is Bengt Thordeman, “Medieval wooden sculpture in Sweden 1: Attitudes to the heritage”, Stockholm 1964. On page 15, Thordeman writes: “That the reredos on the high altar remained where it was until it had to make way, usually in the seventeenth or eighteenth century, for altar decorations in the new contemporary style is obvious; indeed in many cases it still stands in the same place where it has stood since the Middle Ages”. Side-altars were gradually demolished, and many images became redundant. They were usually moved aside or kept in church-lofts. Not a few were sold by auction to private persons in the 19th century.

There was a new wave of mural paintings after the Reformation, with a moralistic and educational content. Mereth Lindgren has written about this in “Att lära och att pryda: Om efterreformatoriska kyrkmålningar i Sverige cirka 1530–1630” [with a summary in German], Stockholm 1983. ISBN 91-7402-125-7.
 
The Swedish situation applies for Finland as well, a least until 1809. The former Danish provinces had the Danish situation described by Karen, but my impression is that the result was actually very much the same as in Sweden. To my knowledge, only Malmö was touched by  iconoclasm. The splendid 14thcentury church of St. Peter in Malmö is a schoolbook example of Reformed Renaissance interior. Gotland was always a conservative region. There the side altars are still in place. Often, the pulpit is placed on one of them (usually the southern one – Danish style). Post-Reformation murals can be found in the former Danish provinces as well.
 
Best,
 
Anders
 
 
 
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Dear Meg
 
As to Denmark: the main prescription is the location of the baptismal font by the door, the pulpit in the middle at the southern wall and the alter to the east plus the introduction of chairs as people were expected to listen to sermons, sometimes for hours on end. The “new” thing was the demand that the congregation should take part in the full service (and not just go to church in order to witness a mass)
1) Only one altar - any side-alters should be abolished
2)The table - which appears to be the old one, should be covered in a clean cloth - and kept clean. In my parish, where the church was built in the 12th century, the table is the original one and dates as far back. 
3) two candles should be lit whenever someone is taking communion. "No more lights are needed as the sun will do the rest of the job”. 
 
Source: Peder Palladius’ Visitatsbog. Ed. by Lis Jacobsen. Gyldendalske Boghandel 1925
 
Apart from that you might wish to know that the retable often were where the main change took place - often decorated with then ten commandments, like here : http://www.oerslevkirke.dk/kirkerne/udby-kirke/kirken/
 
To what extent “old Popish fashions” continued to thrive is quite another matter!
 
Hope this helps you out. 
Karen
 
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On 12 Mar 2016, at 18:01, James Bugslag <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 
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There is some good information on this in Joseph Leo Koerner, The Reformation of the Image(Chicago, 2004).
Jim

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Thanks to all for the information about altar-stones!  With apologies for a slightly post-medieval question (but its for comparative purposes!), does anyone know if  there is any good literature about the interiors of Lutheran churches up to and including the 17th century? Were there regulations about what might stand on an altar? Was it common to have crucifixes there and candlesticks there, or, if not actually on the altar, crosses or crucifixes hanging above or slightly behind it? I know there is a volume on the interior of Danish parish churches in the works, but it won´t appear in time for me to use it.
Thanks in advance,
Meg
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