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Dear Dr. Zbiral, thank you for your attention to my modest work.
My task was:
- to publish the unknown in its completeness version of “Secret
book” of Bogomils included in Doat collection. Due to the courtesy of the
Department of manuscripts of National Library, Paris, I succeeded to
publish even a facsimile of the text. This manuscript, as you say, has been
mentioned (signalée), but not studied and fully presented. So, it was
unknown (inconnu) as integral text,
- to make a detailed comparative analysis of this text (not done
till now) with the versions of Carcassonne and Vienna.This comparison was
my raison to suppose that the “Secret book” of Doat collection is a
prototext, that means previous (and fullest) to the Carcassone and Vienna
versions. Of course, any step in a new matter has its risk of some faults,
omissions. It could happen to me. But I am affraid the complementary
information you are offering is aside of the essence of this research.
Regards: Prof. Georgi Vasilev, Sofia
P.S. However I am flattered to be an object of reservarions by a fellow
with such collection of titles and positions: Dr. David Zbíral, Associate
Professor at Masaryk University (Study of Religions), Managing Editor of
Religio: Revue pro religionistiku, http://www.casr.cz/religioen.php,
General Secretary of the Czech Association for the Study of Religions,
http://www.casr.cz/indexen.php, Department for the Study of Religions,
http://www.phil.muni.cz/relig/indexen.php Faculty of Arts Masaryk
University Arna
Nováka 1 602 00 Brno.
2016-03-10 11:17 GMT+02:00 David Zbíral <[log in to unmask]>:
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> Dear Professor Vasilev,
>
>
>
> the expanded online edition of Krăstina Gecheva’s bibliography is very
> welcome, thank you for sharing the news. My online bibliography on
> Christian heresy is poorer when it comes to Bogomilism, and having
> Gecheva’s book online is very practical.
>
>
>
> I have some reservations as far as your article is concerned.
>
>
>
> The version of Interrogatio Iohannis in the Doat collection is by no means
> unknown ("une version inconnue du «Livre secret» des bogomiles", p. 148,
> and the title of the article), which, after all, you end up acknowledging
> yourself (p. 156). Not only it is known; it even is part of the up-to-date
> edition: the variants from Doat vol. 36 are duly included in the critical
> apparatus of the 1980 edition by Edina Bozóky (*Le livre secret des
> Cathares, Interrogatio Iohannis: Édition critique, traduction, commentaire*,
> Paris: Beauchesne 2009, 3rd edition; first ed.: *Le livre secret des
> Cathares: Interrogatio Iohannis, apocryphe d’origine bogomile*, Paris:
> Beauchesne 1980).
>
>
>
> Strangely, any reference to Bozóky’s edition is lacking in the article,
> while it is the best edition available.
>
>
>
> (A minor correction: Söderberg was Hans, not Hilmar: p. 149.)
>
>
>
> It makes little sense to me to mention that in 1982, Bojidar Peytchev
> pointed to the version in Dôle, Bibliothèque municipale, ms. 109 (p.
> 149-150). This very manuscript is the basis of Bozóky’s critical edition in
> 1980!
>
>
>
> Citing the (well-known) case of Peter Garcia as a proof of the influence
> of Catharism on the Franciscan order (if I get you right - p. 153: "On
> croyait jusqu’aujourd’hui, que les idées hérétiques des frères mineurs
> étaient vagues et les influences du catharisme secondaires") is misguided.
> It is a clear *non sequitur*.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Zbíral.
>
>
>
> Dr. David Zbíral
>
> Associate Professor at Masaryk University (Study of Religions)
>
> Managing Editor of Religio: Revue pro religionistiku,
> http://www.casr.cz/religioen.php
>
> General Secretary of the Czech Association for the Study of Religions,
> http://www.casr.cz/indexen.php
>
> Department for the Study of Religions,
> http://www.phil.muni.cz/relig/indexen.php
>
> Faculty of Arts
>
> Masaryk University
>
> Arna Nováka 1
>
> 602 00 Brno
>
> Czech Republic
>
> [log in to unmask]
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> http://muni.academia.edu/DavidZb%C3%ADral
>
> http://www.david-zbiral.cz
>
> ---------- Původní zpráva ----------
> Od: Georgi Vasilev <[log in to unmask]>
> Komu: [log in to unmask]
> Datum: 6. 3. 2016 20:45:25
> Předmět: [M-R] Two 'heretical' pieces of news
>
> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
> Dear colleagues,
> allow me to inform you that the most extensive bibliography on Bogomilism
> and related movements, written by Krastina Gecheva, is on Internet:
>
> https://bogomili.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/krastina_gecheva_bogomilstvoto.pdf
>
> Another information - a new, till now unstudied version of the "Secret
> book' of Bogomils, is available on:
>
> http://www.bogomilism.eu/Studies/Livre-secret-Doat-Bulgaria-Mediaevalis-4-5-13-14.pdf
>
> Prof. G. Vasilev,
> Academic research center 'Bogomilism and Europe' at University of Library
> Studies and IT,
> Sofia, Bulgaria
>
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