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*The Path to DissentMike Davis on the Trump phenomenon and why young people
are so open to socialism.by Mike Davis[image: Inline image 1]Congress of
Racial Equality picketers in front of the Maryland State House on March 11,
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Last year, when Bernie Sanders announced he would run for president in the
Democratic Party primary, few imagined the support he would win. Many
assumed that his self-identification as a democratic socialist would
alienate voters. Yet the primary season has seen him achieve some
surprising victories.

Few are better equipped to understand such a phenomenon — or the troubling
rise of Donald Trump — than Marxist sociologist Mike Davis. His work on the
American working class and political formation gives him a unique
perspective on today’s political moment and its meaning for the Left.

In this interview, Maria Christina Vogkli, a London School of Economics
sociology alumnus, and George Souvlis, a PhD candidate in history at the
European University Institute in Florence, speak with Davis about the roots
of his political identity, the pernicious effects of Clintonite policies,
and the importance of this year’s presidential primaries.

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Could you tell us a bit about your family background?

My family background is distinctive only in being impossibly average. My
dad came from a rural Protestant background in Ohio and was a fervent New
Deal Democrat. My mom was an urban Irish Catholic and a registered
Republican, but twice voted for the Socialist candidate Norman Thomas. She
equally adored President Eisenhower and Liberace.

Both were high school graduates. Apart from the Vulgate Bible we had no
books in our home, but my father was an avid newspaper reader (sports and
politics) and my mom devoured the Reader’s Digest cover to cover.

My dad worked in the wholesale meat industry in a strangely hybrid
white-collar/blue-collar job. His work day was equally divided between
sales calls, fabrication of orders, and delivering meat.

Our family income, home mortgage, car value, hours spent watching TV, and
so on were always the national median during the 1950s. (I’ve researched
this.) I grew up in a 1947 tract home on the exact border between the last
subdivision and the remaining orange and avocado orchards of East San Diego
County.

How do you think your family background influenced your later political
formation?

I’m currently writing a book about the 1960s with a particular emphasis on
activists from “ordinary” backgrounds like my own, without heroic family
histories on the Left. But, as I’ve discovered, there were almost always
predispositions to dissent in our genealogies, sometimes very subtle.

In my case there were three: my dad’s intense dedication to the meat
cutters union (he was a founding member of his local); having black and
Asian cousins by marriage; and the shanty-Irish class consciousness of my
nominally Republican mother (she despised the Kennedys as “lace-curtain,
castle Catholics”).

The source of my father and uncle’s exceptional antiracism was long a
mystery to me until in the 1970s I revisited the family hearth in Ohio: the
tiny hamlet of Venedocia (now, population 140), founded by my father’s
ancestors in the 1840s, where Welsh was the primary language until the
early twentieth century.

The penny dropped when I spent an afternoon in the little cemetery looking
at the headstones of the Union dead — Jones, Davis, Evans, Howell, and so
on. These Welsh forebears, among the first settlers of Ohio’s Black Swamp,
were fierce abolitionists.

This DNA, as it were, was activated when I was sixteen in 1962 — alcoholic,
delinquent, and suicidal — and my cousin, then married to a man who would
be one of the founders of black studies in San Diego, invited me to a
protest organized by the San Diego chapter of the Congress of Racial
Equality (CORE). This was my burning bush moment and — forgive the
melodrama — gave my life its direction.

Like so many others caught up in the courage and beauty of the civil rights
campaign, I lived the movement, stage by stage, from CORE, to the Students
for a Democratic Society (SDS — I was a full-timer for three years), to the
Marxist left (the heretical, pro-Dubček Southern California district of the
Communist Party in my case).

If my mind has an eccentric and unorthodox bent and my temperament inclines
toward Celtic melancholia, my core values and self-definition remain
stalwartly, even soldierly socialist.

How would you describe the wider context of Southern California during this
period?

Like many of our neighbors, my parents were Depression refugees,
hitchhiking to Southern California from Ohio in 1938. The dominant
“ethnicity” in our all-white town was Southwestern (Oklahoma and Texas),
and the largest religious groups were the Southern Baptists followed by
Pentecostals, Mormons, and Methodists.

Main Street roughly divided the town by wealth and popular culture. Our
side was poorer and notoriously “redneck,” with trailer parks, a famed
country-western ballroom, and a nearby rodeo. The other side — south of
Main — was marginally more middle-class, Methodist, and oriented to beach
culture. We were inclined to label ourselves first as “Westerners” and had
an envious antipathy to surfers.

Racism and rabid anticommunism were pervasive, but because of the large
number of unionized aircraft and skilled construction workers who lived
there, our area elected Democratic representatives. The John Birch Society
was very active and paranoid, but in the last instance the machinists union
was politically more influential.

You’ve argued that the Democratic Party cannot be the political
organization to bring significant social transformation to the working
class. Do you continue to believe that? Did Obama make a significant
difference among the other leaders of the party, or was he one of the same?

The evil (I use this word precisely) of Clintonite neoliberalism screams
back at us from every Trump rally. Jessie Jackson’s exciting Rainbow
Coalition campaigns in the 1980s proved that it was entirely possible to
ally the rust belt and the ghetto, but his center-right opponents in the
Democratic Party — Bill Clinton’s Democratic Leadership Council — blew up
all the bridges of progressive economic unity between imperiled white
manufacturing-sector workers and the working poor of the barrios and
ghettos.

Consistently championing global free trade, information elites, and
financialization over manufacturing, the Clinton and then Obama White
Houses have presided over the death of the industries and industrial unions
that were the backbone of New Deal Democrats.

Under Obama, who has continued the teacher-bashing and
government-job-slashing policies of Bush, public-sector unions now face a
similar decimation.

Perhaps most shocking has been the passivity of the Obama administration
and the Democratic leadership in the face of the Koch-financed offensive to
destroy unions and slash public budgets in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio.

Less dramatic perhaps, but no less consequential, has been the absence of
any initiative to address catastrophic job loss and the disintegration of
the social fabric in the industrial and mining belts of the piedmont and
mountain South, including the once-impregnable Democratic stronghold of
West Virginia. (If you will, this is the American East Germany.)

The conservative religious agenda has gained such electoral salience in
these areas precisely because the Democrats offer no serious counterbalance
in the form of economic policy.

What is your understanding of the Trump phenomenon?

The Trump phenomenon, considering what I said before, should not have been
such a surprise. For years, the ex-Nixonite demagogue Pat Buchanan has
advocated a nativist economic nationalism with an America First foreign
policy. A star-spangled Marine Le Pen with a long pedigree.

As a presidential candidate, Buchanan won some spectacular Republican
primary victories, but without the support of the mega-churches or the
billionaires, faded quickly. Trump, with a vast personal fortune and a
shrewd use of the outrageous to stay at the top of the news, is independent
of the far-right establishment and its ideological scriptures.

His success partly answers the famous question of Tom Frank in his 2004
book What’s the Matter with Kansas?: why do white workers support
conservative crusades whose economic policies are totally opposed to their
own interests?

The Trump campaign, with its demagogic emphasis on jobs, clearly shows that
false consciousness has its limits and that downwardly mobile whites are no
longer robotic followers of the Heritage Foundation or the Christian right.

If Trump, like the satanic George Wallace in 1968, mobilizes the dark side,
he also exposes a degree of alienation among former “Reagan Democrats” and
their offspring that may well destroy the post-Reagan Republican Party
brought to power by Newt Gingrich in 1994.

Do you see any potential in Bernie Sanders’s candidacy to make a difference?

Sanders, or rather his base, are the more novel and unexpected phenomena.
As someone who was skeptical about the Occupy movement (too dominated by
elite kids and pseudo-anarchism), I find the current generational revolt
astonishing in its scale, passion, and inclusivity.

Although the elite colleges supply much of the campaign’s full-time cadre,
the soul of the Sanders movement is elsewhere: farm colleges, high schools,
and the endlessly swelling ranks of the credentialed but marginally
employed young. And the children of the new immigrants are increasingly
visible in the campaign as it moves west and into the big cities.

Although any personal comparison between Al Smith and Bernie Sanders would
be absurd, 2016 increasingly evokes memories of the presidential election
of 1928.

Although the conservative Democrat Smith (the first Catholic to run for the
White House) lost to Herbert Hoover, the election was the overture to the
Roosevelt era, as the children of Ellis Island — urban Catholics and Jews —
first marched to the polls in great numbers.

Likewise, the Sanders campaign, even more than Obama’s miracle in 2008, is
proof of a fundamental realignment being driven by a new electorate and
future majority with a distinctive agenda.

Would you like to elaborate a bit more on what type of political
“realignment” is currently taking place within the Democratic Party?

“Realignment” in modern American political theory is a controversial
concept, less popular than it was in its interpretive heyday of the late
1960s and 1970s. Too many small earthquakes have been wrongly construed as
the “Big One.” Yet I can’t think of a better term to describe what is
currently happening within the Democratic Party.

Unlike the Republicans, who are genuinely imploding and dealigning, that is
to say, going berserk, the Democrats are in the throes of a generational
transition which clearly points in a coherent, more leftward direction. A
hyperbolic claim? Not according to the polling data where Sanders’s support
among voters under thirty is unprecedented (as is Clinton’s deficit in the
same demographic).

Even more so is the vogue for socialism among millennials. National polls
since 2011 have consistently shown a plurality of those under thirty
choosing socialism over capitalism — an astonishing sea change in opinion,
even if the categories are poorly defined.

Sanders may be mocked for supposedly wanting to turn the US into Denmark,
but the real reference point of his campaign, as he has consistently
emphasized, is FDR’s proposal for an Economic and Social Bill of Rights,
the platform of his 1944 campaign and the high point of modern liberalism.

In our post-liberal political system, however, rights to health care and
free college education are arguably now “socialist” demands (or
“transitional demands,” in Trotsky’s sense).

What main limitations do you see in Sanders’s campaign?

The Sanders campaign, of course, is easily disparaged as one-dimensional:
his foreign policy positions, for example, are disappointingly unclear and
in many respects little different from Clinton’s. His specific economic
reforms are also less radical than they seem.

Breaking up the big banks, for example, is the Progressivism of La Follette
and George Norris (great 1930s liberal Republicans); socialists would
propose instead to nationalize them as public utilities. He would tax the
super-wealthy at the same levels as LBJ but less than Eisenhower.

Moreover, he has carefully sidestepped traditional left demands for
reductions in military spending and abolition of the surveillance state.
And his employment strategy (the right to a decent job was the cornerstone
of FDR’s program) is timid and unoriginal: all recent Democrats have
routinely and without conviction advocated job creation through
infrastructure investment. Hardly a remedy for permanent stagflation.

Despite this, Sanders provides the partial template — even if cobbled
together from New Deal–era policies — for a politics that corresponds both
to the equal-opportunity values and survival-economic needs of the new
majority.

The missing link, apart from a genuinely progressive foreign policy
critique, is obviously his reluctance to acknowledge the structural
persistence of racism beyond the catastrophe of mass incarceration.

The re-segregation of public education and the fiscal destruction of
nonwhite-majority cities are two giant issues crying out to be addressed.

Young people trust Sanders to defend Dreamers and their parents, but it is
unlikely that his campaign will produce a policy even remotely as radical
as Pope Francis’s insistence on the priority of human rights over national
sovereignty.

But no matter, old granite-face has accomplished far more than anyone would
have conceived possible, and it’s up to the movement, embryonic in the
campaign, to take up the long game of coordinating labor organizing, rights
campaigns, and electoral insurgency.

Once the socialist cultural critic Raymond Williams said, “To be truly
radical is to make hope possible, rather than despair convincing.” Where do
you stand on this?

“Hope” is not a scientific category. Nor is it a necessary obligation in
polemical writing. On the other hand, intellectual honesty is, and I try to
call it as I see it, however wrongheaded my ideas and analyses may be.

I manifestly do believe that we have arrived at a final conflict that will
decide the survival of a large part of poor humanity over the next half
century. Against this future we must fight like the Red Army in the rubble
of Stalingrad. Fight with hope, fight without hope, but fight absolutely.

Mike Davis is the author of several books, including Planet of Slums and
City of Quartz.

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