Hi Jarros On 03/14/2016 05:56 AM, Jarrod Mousa wrote: > Hi all, > > I have two data sets for a protein that both index and scale into > P212121 and process easily in imosflm, yet AIMLESS and Xtriage suggest > twinning, although no laws fit P212121. May I suggest you read the following references. It is not always very easy detect a REAL twin in protein crystals ... - Yeates & Fam (1995). Protein crystals and their evil twins. Structure. 7(2). R25-R29. - Yeates (1997). Detecting and overcoming crystals twins. Methods in Enzymology. 276. 344-358. - Padilla & Yeates (2003). A statistical for local intensity differences ... Acta Cryst. D59, 1124-30, 2003 Usually you need more than just one indicator, and the REAL ones are not detectable by images inspection. Nevertheless, it is always very useful a visual inspection of your images. Could you perhaps, try XDS and tell us about the <I**2>/2<I>**2 HIGHER ORDER MOMENTS OF WILSON DISTRIBUTION OF ACENTRIC DATA In my experience it is a good first indicator You could also try http://services.mbi.ucla.edu/Twinning/ > I tried indexing into P1 and Xtriage finds three possible > pseudo-merohedral twin laws h-k-l, -h,k-l, and -h,-k,l. I can find > solutions easily in Phaser, but these will not refine Rfree. I am > wondering what the best approaches are to find the correct spacegroup > and try to solve the structure correctly? If I understood correctly, you obtain "easily" MR solutions in P1 with Phaser, could you tell us about the Z-scores and LLG ? So then you tried refmac and the Rfree didn't goes down? or what? What about your Rsym, Completeness, resolution and B-factors (wilson and refinement ones)? All the best Carlos > > thanks, > > Jarrod Mousa -- Carlos CONTRERAS MARTEL, Ph.D. (CR1 CNRS) [log in to unmask] "Bacterial Pathogenesis Group" Institut de Biologie Structurale UMR5075 CEA-CNRS-UGA IBS CAMPUS EPN 71, avenue des Martyrs CS 10090 38044 Grenoble CEDEX 9 FRANCE tel : (+33) (0)4 57 42 86 41 http://www.ibs.fr/groupes/groupe-pathogenie-bacterienne/?lang=fr http://www.ibs.fr/groups/bacterial-pathogenesis-group/?lang=en