Agree, I think most of us would make a more comprehensive psychosocial assessment and use experience, judgement, sometimes assessment tools if appropriate (I quite like the PHQ-9 as a progress tool for example) and as one psychiatrist once said to me ‘if it doesn’t feel right then it probably isn’t’ but I do get concerned about the use of assessment tools that have not been validated.   

Regards

Karen

 

 

From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Libby HM
Sent: 12 February 2016 16:02
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Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Re Suicide risk assessment

 

Exactly right Karen, so many factors come into play. Sometimes there may be no signs and no typical risk factors visible yet someone may take their own life. And of course the best we can ever do is signpost someone to appropriate professional help based on the information available. For me I feel my medical records are backed up if I can show I have made some kind of assessment.

Best,

Libby


On 12 Feb 2016, at 15:48, Karen Coomer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi Sarah

I think you have to be very careful using assessment scales to predict suicide intent, many are not valid as the following link and NICE state http://patient.info/doctor/Suicide-Risk-Assessment-and-Threats-of-Suicide

 

I have read research that suggests that suicidal thoughts and planning are not necessarily a good indicator of a risk, there are many other risk factors to consider.

 

I would ask the question about whether the one in the OH magazine is validated before use. 

Regards

Karen

 

 

From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Monaghan, Sarah
Sent: 12 February 2016 13:42
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Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Re Suicide risk assessment

 

Hello All

 

A few years ago I saw a suicide risk assessment tool in the OH magazine.

 

I was wondering if anyone had a copy of it or one that they use that they wouldn’t mind sharing with me.

 

Many Thanks

 

Sarah Monaghan

Senior Occupational Health Advisor

 

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