Hi Sheena,

 

Please could you add my signature to this very positive response.

 

Best wishes,

Bernie Divall (see below for job title and base)

 

Dr Bernie Divall

Research Fellow in Maternity Care

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From: A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of SHEENA BYROM
Sent: 28 February 2016 14:13
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Subject: Re: New scientist - article REVISED DRAFT

 

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Hi all,

Here is the amended latest draft ready to go to the New Scientist.

 

We would like the signatories to include a range of disciplines/researchers/policy makers if at all possible. For those willing to sign, please could you ask two or more others who are not midwives (fathers? obstetricians/ neonatologists? epidemiologists? sociologists?  bereaved parents?)  to also sign?

 

I need the signatures by Tuesday, then we’ll send it to the New Scientist. We can add the content to a blog for wider sharing (and more signatures) after the journal has either rejected it or published the letter. 

 

If you have signed (please check below), could you make sure I have all your details please? Just name, job title and base?

 

 

Response to New Scientist piece by Clare Wilson, 25 February 2016

We are somewhat astonished that the New Scientist is citing Amy Tuteur, ex-obstetrician and US blogger, and the findings from one NHS Trust,  as the only evidence base for their claims thatthe recommendations of the recent NHS England Maternity Review will lead to ‘dead babies and damaged mothers’.   This suggests that the New Scientist does not believe or accept the findings of a systematic review of 15 funded and published RCTs on the benefits of continuity of midwifery led care including  17,674  women from 4 countries (Sandall et al, 2015).  This Cochrane Collaboration review found that continuity of midwifery care reduces preterm birth and overall fetal and neonatal death. 

It also fails  to acknowledge the findings of high quality large scale scientific studies published in medical journals comparing the outcomes from planned out of hospital births with planned hospital births, that identify no increase in perinatal mortality or severe morbidity (De Jonge et al 2009, Hutton et al 2015, Janssen et al 2009). The article ignores the National Institute of Health Research funded Birthplace in England study,  which researched the risks and benefits of giving birth in different settings in England, analysing detailed data on over 64,000 ‘low risk’ births. This included nearly 17,000 planned home births, 28,000 births in midwife-led units and nearly 20,000 obstetric unit births. The study identified that there were no significant differences in adverse perinatal outcomes for babies born in midwife led units compared to obstetric units and in addition found significant benefits for the health of the mothers (Birthplace Collaborative Group 2011) . The article  completely avoids the most recent National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence ( NICE) evidence-based guidance on intrapartum care for healthy women and babies (NICE, 2014, CG190), which makes strong evidence-based recommendations on birth place and the benefits of physiological birth for the great majority of mothers and babies in the short and longer term.

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The New Scientist will surely be aware that both NICE and the Cochrane Collaboration evidence-based guidelines follow a rigorous and inclusive review, consultation and decision-making system to ensure that guidelines reflect best clinical evidence. Does the New Scientist therefore not believe any evidence produced by NICE and the Cochrane Collaboration, given that the maternity services review  was based on exactly the same standards as all the relevant NICE and Cochrane reviews?


Amy Tuteur is based in the USA,  where there is a very different maternity system and much higher rates of maternal mortality and stillbirth than in the UK. She strongly opposes normal birth and midwife care.  If we are really at a point when one personal opinion from a blogger and one important but very specific element of findings from one single NHS Trust  trumps years ofnational and international research, maybe we can save millions of pounds in future by not undertaking RCTs or guideline development, and just organising policy and practice on the basis of the views of a few individuals and a few specific cases. 

if the New Scientist does not believe the research underpinning the NHS England Maternity Review,   it would be very helpful if they could provide evidence (not anecdote) of the dangers of  the Review recommendations for designing maternity care so that mothers can have respectful, kind maternity care centered on their values and needs,   based on continuity of midwifery led care,  as part of an integrated health system with seamless links to obstetric input and  authentic teamwork.

References

De Jonge et al 2009 Perinatal mortality and morbidity in a nationwide cohort of 529688 low risk planned home and hospital births BJOG,  116(9):1177-84

 

Birthplace Collaborative Group et al 2011 Perinatal and maternal outcomes by planned place of birth for healthy women with low risk pregnancies: the Birthplace in England national prospective cohort study BMJ, 343 Open Access

 

Hutton et al 2015 Outcomes associated with planned place of birth among women with low-risk pregnancies CMAJ, . Dec 22, epub ahead of print

 

Janssen P et al 2009 Outcomes of planned home birth with registered midwives versus planned hospital birth with midwives or physicians CMAJ, 181, 6-7

 

NICE, 2014 Intrapartum care for healthy women and babies  CG190. Available from: https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/cg190. Accessed 28th February 2016

 

Sandall J et al 2015 ‘Midwife-Led continuity models versus other modes of care for childbearing women’, Cochrane Database Syst Rev. Sep 15;9:CD004667

 

 

 

Signed:

 

Professor Soo Downe OBE University of Central Lancashire UK

Dr Mary Ross-Davie Education Projects Manager Maternal and Child Health Glasgow UK

Sheena Byrom OBE, HFRCM, Midwife Consultant UK

Professor Christine McCourt Maternal & Child Health City University London UK

Tom McEwan MSc, PgDip (ANNP), BSc, RM. Lecturer in Midwifery (Maternal, Child & Family Health)

Dr. A. de Ruijter LLM, Chair of the Board, Clara Wichmann Foundation, strategic litigation for women’s rights

Dr Anke de Jonge xxx

Professor Jenny Gamble Discipline Head for Midwifery Griffith University Australia 

Jenny Hall Senior Midwifery Lecturer  Bournemouth University London UK

Lucia Rocca Lecturer in Midwifery City University London UK

Elizabeth Cluett Director of Programs for Family, Child and Psychosocial Health University of Southampton UK

Miranda Dodwell User representative and researcher, BirthChoiceUK

Professor Billie Hunter RCM Professor of Midwifery Cardiff University UK

Professor Mary Renfrew xxx

Ellen Blix xxxx

Zoe Vardavaki Birth Centre Midwife University College Hospital London UK

Yvonne McGrath Senior Midwife University College Hospital London UK

Sally Tracey xxx

Corine Verhoeven xxx

Susanne Besseling xxx

Dr Liz Darling Assistant Professor of Midwifery Laurentian University, Ontario, Canada

Alison McFarlane xxx

Louise Silverton CBE Director for Midwifery Royal College of Midwives London

Luisa Cescutti-Butler xxxx Bournemouth University UK

Caitlin Wilson Consultant Midwife Mid Yorkshire NHS Trust UK

Anna Byrom Senior Midwifery Lecturer University Central Lancashire UK

Megan Jackson Labour Ward Midwife University College Hospital London UK

Octavia Wiseman community midwife, Kings College Hospital Research Fellow, City University London UK

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

With very best wishes,



Sheena 

 

sheenabyrom.com

Twitter: @SagefemmeSB

With very best wishes,


Sheena 

 

sheenabyrom.com

Twitter: @SagefemmeSB

 

 


























 

 



 

On 28 Feb 2016, at 11:48, Meghan Jackson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

This is amazing!
I would love to sign.
Meghan Jackson
Labour Ward Midwife (UCLH)

On 28 Feb 2016 10:42, "Wilson Caitlin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi 

 

Looks great. I will sign

 

Warm Regards

 

Caitlin

 

Consultant Midwife 

Sent from my iPad


On 26 Feb 2016, at 15:27, Louise Silverton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Excellent. Well done all

Louise

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From: A forum for discussion on midwifery and reproductive health research. [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mary Ross-Davie
Sent: 26 February 2016 14:34
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: New scientist - article

 

Hi Billie, Mary and all

So, I made a few additions to Soo's great letter - just in terms of adding some references as requested - I have forwarded to Sheena to work her networking magic - but will also paste below so others can amend as they would like:

Response to New Scientist piece by Clare Wilson, 25 February 2016

We are somewhat astonished that the New Scientist is citing Amy Tueter, blogger, as the evidence base for their claims that natural birth is killing babies.
This suggests that the New Scientist does not believe or accept the findings of a systematic review of  15 funded and published RCTs on the benefits of continuity of midwifery led care including  17,674  women from  4countries (Sandall et al, 2015).  This Cochrane review found that continuity of midwifery care reduces preterm birth and overall fetal and neonatal death.

It fails to acknowledge the findings of high quality large scale studies comparing the outcomes from planned out of hospital births with planned hospital births, that identify no increase in perinatal mortality or severe morbidity (Janssen et al 2009, De Jonge et al 2009). The article ignores the National Perinatal Epidemiology Unit Birthplace study  which researched the risks and benefits of giving birth in different settings in England, gathering detailed data on over 64,000 ‘low risk’ births. This included nearly 17,000 planned home births, 28,000 births in midwife-led units and nearly 20,000 obstetric unit births. The study identified that there were no significant differences in adverse perinatal outcomes for babies born in midwife led units compared to obstetric units (Hollowell  et al 2011, Brocklehurst et al, 2011) The article  fails to recognise the most recent National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence ( NICE) guidance on intrapartum care for healthy women and babies (NICE, 2014, CG190), on birth place and the benefits of physiological birth for mother and baby in the short and longer term and  the findings in the recent Lancet Stillbirth Series that very few babies die intrapartum in high income countries (even in the UK) (Froen et al 2016).
-Does the New Scientist therefore not believe any evidence produced by NICE and the Cochrane Collaboration, given that the maternity services review  based on exactly the same standards as all the other NICE and Cochrane reviews?

If we are really at a point when a personal opinion from a blogger who is known to strongly oppose normal birth and midwife care, and the findings from one single Trust,   trumps years of serious research, maybe we can save millions of pounds in future by not undertaking RCTS or guideline development, and just organising policy on the basis of the views of a few individuals and a few specific cases.

if the New Scientist does not think this is the way to determine policy in health care, it would be very helpful if they could provide the evidence base (beyond anecdote) that introducing a policy of maximising normal birth where possible,  based on continuity of midwifery led care, and seamless links to obstetric support, will increase stillbirths for whole populations of women

References

Sandall J et al (2015) ‘Midwife-Led continuity models versus other modes of care for childbearing women’, Cochrane Library

Janssen P et al (2009) ‘ Outcomes of planned home birth with registered midwives versus planned hospital birth with midwives or physicians’, CMAJ, vol 181, 6-7

De Jonge A, 2009, ‘Perinatal moratlity and morbidity in a nationwide cohort of 529688 low risk planned home and hospital births’, BJOG, vol 116, 9

Brocklehurst, P, 2011, ‘Perinatal and maternal outcomes by planned place of birth for healthy women with low risk pregnancies: the Birplace England national prospective cohort study’, BMJ, vol 343; see also www.npeu.ox.ac.uk/birthplace

NICE, 2014, ‘Intrapartum care for healthy women and babies’, CG190

Froen et al, 2016, ‘Endinb preventable stillbirth’, The Lancet stillbirth series


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