I agree too but am concerned that if terms are changed this will only confuse the issue as some people are only just coming to terms with the fact of the ethnicity
attainment gap!
We( the students and those engaged in the project) position it here within the broader focus of promoting race equality for students.
Jane Tope
University of Birmingham
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Hi
I entirely agree with this move.
Best Wishes
Zainab
Dr Zainab Hussain
Senior Lecturer School of Health Sciences
School of Health Lead for Widening Participation
Co Chair Athena Swan SAT
Chair of BME Staff Network
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Hi,
I am in favour of anything that places the responsibility for the
gap firmly on the institutions. If changing what we call it changes mindsets then we should try it. However this must be accompanied by a big campaign to move thinking away from the deficit model which is one of the main reasons the gap is sustained.
Winston Morgan BSc, PhD, FHEA,
Reader in Toxicology and Clinical Biochemistry,
Programme Leader, Biosciences MSc programmes,
School of Health Sport and Bioscience,
University of East London,
Water Lane, London E15 4LZ.
Tel 0208-223-4182
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Sent: 22 February 2016 11:25
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Hi,
I think this is an interesting debate and also links to whether we should refer to degree awarding or degree attainment.
Degree attainment can suggest a deficit approach whereby we need to offer remedial solutions to help those students improve, whereas degree awarding suggests the institution
is failing to award those degree to students at the same rate, and therefore needs to change.
A small distinction perhaps, but one we're trying to include in our materials.
Claire
Claire Herbert
Race Equality Charter (REC) Manager
T: 020 7438 1016
M: 07889 757503
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Sent: 22 February 2016 11:04
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Hi Dominic
I instinctively prefer ethnicity attainment gap as it does seem to go some way to neutralising the implied 'lack' as you say.
Best wishes
Rochelle
Dr Rochelle Rowe
Equality and Diversity Adviser
St Georges University of London
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From: Higher Education Race Action Group alerts and communications [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dominik Jackson-Cole
Sent: 22 February 2016 10:51
Subject: BME vs ethnicity attainment gap
Dear all,
I don't know if this issue has been raised before (I did a quick search on here and couldn't find anything though) but I was just wondering if it was worth looking into the
names we give to the attainment gaps, and consider the possible shift in the name we use and potential implications?
So we use the words 'Gender attainment gap' - as opposed to boy's/men's attainment gap. This seems more neutral and doesn't implicitly suggest that there's something wrong
with boys/men... the same applies to social class attainment gap - not 'working class' attainment gap.
Whereas we usually (not all the time, and I know my own institution is also guilty of it) say 'BME attainment gap' - which is not neutral and one might argue locates the
issue within the BME students. Wouldn't it be more neutral/ better to start using the phrase 'Ethnicity attainment gap'? After all we all have/ can have an ethnicity that we identify as... or that people racialise us as, just as we have a gender identity (not
necessarily in a binary sense of course!).
What would be the implications of this? Do you think it's a better name? (of course by this name I do not wish to distract anyone from working on the actual issues - which
is the gap and which needs to be addressed)
Kind Regards,
Dominik Jackson-Cole
EDI Senior Advisor
Kingston University
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