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Dear all,

 

It is good to raise this question and have this debate.  In my view the  BPS and beyond  ( psychology more broadly as a  discipline and as a  set of practices, including but not dominated by  clinical psychology and also not dominated by western  ideas of psychology )   absolutely needs to engage with, and be resourced by,   the external challenging voices  that this discussion list ( along with various  other critical fora) provide.  AND  we need to come together  across our divisions and schisms to be play our parts in   a stronger collective force for global social justice .

 

On October 16th 2004 , at  the 10th  annual  UK community psychology conference,  in Exeter ( on Challenging Inequalities) ,   which  was well supported by many UK community psychology enthusiasts including community activists, academic, educational  and clinical psychologists (here are some papers http://www.compsy.org.uk/Papers_from_the__UK_Community_Psychology_Conference,_Exeter,_2004.html  )  ,  a decision was made  by the assembled company that a group of us would  work to establish a community psychology section in the BPS.  We were eventually successful in doing so, though it took quite a while. .  The section was  inaugurated in October 2010 with Jacqui Ackhurst as its first chair . The decision to try to form  a BPS community psychology section was a contested one which I know had been debated for several years before the Exeter conference. - we all had differing degrees of ambivalence , being   concerned  that  if   community psychology integrated within the  mainstream of the  BPS,  it would lose its critical and edgy  impact . It seems to me now  on balance that the decision to push for a community section was a good one. It seems to me   that the section has been , and still is,  a strong force for good within the BPS.  There are  some very encouraging developments .  The Society is increasingly vocal about issues of social justice ( despite being hamstrung by its constitutional arrangements that disallow political engagement ) .  The BPS remains a very imperfect organisation. And we surely  need to listen and hear critical and challenging voices from both inside and  outside the professional body.   And in any case it wasn’t entirely  either/ or.  We have, thanks to the work of list managers of this list , retained this place for debate and challenge.  This discussion list is not the BPS community psychology discussion list  ( though there is an overlap of membership) .  It is valuable  for many reasons – not least because membership here does not require BPS membership.  

 

The organisers  of the forthcoming DCP pre-qualification event  invited me to speak at their  forthcoming event.  I wasn’t able to, being already committed on that day,  but  I have  suggested some trainee alternatives – wonderful young people  who are committed to trying to understand, and be guided by community psychology,  values and practices .  My sense is that many  young people coming forward as future applied psychologists are highly principled and passionate in their desire to   contribute to transformative efforts to  make the world better,  fairer, more peaceful, more inclusive  and  more socially  just  - as well as to cherish and steward our physical environment   and tackle climate change.   It would be great if we could work together constructively to support the psychological and community  activists of the future , whatever branch of applied or lay or  academic psychology we, and they,  identify  with.

 

And as Richard proposes here, and as others have said too, it would be great to do more together to promote a critically informed and engaged  movement for  psychology in public health, with effective political and public engagement.

 

Annie

 

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Apologises if my overly defensive policing comment was unhelpful. I am coming towards the end of a long four years as chair of the DCP and the apparently fragmented and divided state of British psychology starts to drive one crazy! 

 

The public health agenda is growing by the day. Population level interventions and public and professional understanding of complex aetiologies including the highly negative impacts of inequality seem to be on the up. However, we have Health Promotion mainly in Health psychology, Francis related work shared between the Clinical and Occupational divisions, the Work and Health initiative is trying to get resources and momentum through the BPS Professional Practice Board, the attempt to form a network of people working with or around Health and Wellbeing Boards in England never got off the ground. The community psychology section seems to me to be gaining traction but is ambivalent about being associated the rest of psychology? The new BPS strategy is inviting a greater policy impact and public engagement.

 

I am clear in my own mind that as a collective we could be more effective in our work with both individuals and communities is we were more ‘joined up and less schism minded'.

 

We had Nadine Kaslow the past president of the American Psychological Association as a key note at our recent annual conference. She fronted their response to the Hoffman report and our involvement in torture. She said that the only place in the BPS that she could find a serious commitment to social justice was in the Counselling Division. I have just checked the community section website it doesn’t say anything about social justice.

 

It is great that our prequel group has organised this event. I will check out with them whether they thought about inviting senior figures from the section. 

 

We have started planning our January 2017 annual conference which is going to be in Liverpool. I am hoping that this will have a strong community psychology thread. The next President Peter Kinderman is from Liverpool and is very active on the local Health and Wellbeing board. 

 

This has recently been produced about David Smail. It perhaps indicates the potential benefits of being more joined up. https://karnacology.com/hall-of-fame/david-smail/

 

How has the community psychology section responded to the ongoing attempts to restructure/reinvent the BPS?

 

Hope this is helpful

 

Richard

 

 

On 21 Feb 2016, at 09:37, jacqui lovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

For me it would def not be a 'clinical' one but one informed by an ecological framework, social justice, materialism and poverty as primary considerations at the core,
Cheers
Jacqui

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Date:    Sat, 20 Feb 2016 08:25:09 +0000
From:    richard pemberton <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Fwd: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Fwd: Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more - 11 March 2016, Birmingham

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> It depends how you define a field or how you want to carve and police psychology ? Cross section and divisional events are rare in British psychology? People seem to generally like to talk amongst their own. I am going to it but not speaking. How do you become/know you are a community psychologist?
>
> I have heard no talk of a clinical community psychology faculty! We have a clinical health faculty. I have been advocating that 'we get organised around health and wellbeing boards and public health in general. It has been hard to get momentum on this. I haven't however given up and have plans to try and move this forward when I finish my stint as DCP chair.
>
> It is important that the President and President elect are speaking at it as they are seeking to reinvent the BPS. I wonder what sort of community psychology structure or profile community psychologists would want.
>
> Richard
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 14:55, Carl Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Completely agree Mark.
>>
>> Carl Walker
>> SASS
>> University of Brighton
>> 01273 643475
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> Sent: 19 February 2016 11:06
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Fwd: Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more - 11 March 2016, Birmingham
>>
>> This is strange.  Has the BPS compsy section had any involvement in this event?
>> While interest of clinical psychologists in politics, action and the world beyond the consulting room is to be welcomed, it does seem strange that (so far as I know) none of the speakers is from the community psychology field.
>>
>>
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>> Subject:        Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more - 11 March 2016, Birmingham
>> Date:   Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:54:39 +0000
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>> Pre-Qualification Group Annual Conference 2016
>> Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more
>> #PQGconf
>>
>> Friday 11 March 2016
>>
>> The Studio Venue, Birmingham
>>
>> Join fellow pre and in-training peers, qualified clinicians and experts by experience at the 2016 DCP PQG Annual Conference. This event promises the chance to consider how critical and community approaches to psychology can be applied in interesting and novel ways. This conference aims to open up dialogues among future clinical psychologists and the public, to help shape creative and empowering interventions that go beyond routine practice and change conventional practices for something different and potentially better.
>> Learning outcomes and objectives;
>> Attendees will gain of an understanding of and insight into:
>> •         What does it mean to be a psychologist in the 'real world'
>> •         Should clinical psychology really be involved in politics, the media and community?
>> •         How to design, plan and evaluate interventions beyond the scope of conventional 'therapy'
>> •         What community psychology can look like across the lifespan
>> •         How to critique and engage with different perspectives
>> •         How to involve service-users and experts-by-experience throughout our work
>> •         How clinical psychologists are trying to change the world for the better
>>
>> We've got a great line up of speakers and here's who we have confirmed so far:
>>
>> Jamie Hacker-Hughes (BPS President)
>> Masuma Rahim (Clinical Psychologist & Blogger)
>> Lisa Cameron (Clinical Psychologist and MP)
>> Psychologist Against Austerity PAA
>> Rufus May (Clinical Psychologist) & Elisabeth Svanholmers (Hearing Voices Network Trainer & Facilitator)
>> Minorities in Clinical Training Group
>> Nina Browne (Trainee Clinical Psychologist) & Kat Alcock (Clinical Psychologist)
>> Sarah Wheeler & Thomas Tobias (Founders of Mental Fight Club & Dragon Cafe)
>> Walk The Talk Team
>> Peter Kinderman (Clinical Psychologist and BPS President Elect)
>> Anne Cooke (Clinical Psychologist)
>>
>> Attending the conference starts for as little as £20!
>>
>> Fees (Inclusive VAT):
>> DCP Pre-Qual Members £20
>> DCP Members £30
>> Society Member £36
>> Affiliate Subscribers £44
>> E Subscribers £47
>> Non-Society Members £48
>>
>> Lunch and refreshments provided throughout the day
>>
>> The Pre-Qualification Group look forward to welcoming you to this years Annual Conference 2016
>>
>> For further information or to book: http://www.kc-jones.co.uk/pqg2016
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Date:    Sat, 20 Feb 2016 16:56:00 +0000
From:    Thomas Allan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Fwd: Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more - 11 March 2016, Birmingham

Perhaps carve and police a bit strong wording there. I guess there's
nothing wrong with clin psy attempts to open eyes to the 'real world'
beyond individualistic focus but I think the concern that there is a
risk of coopting and watering down CPs political-transformative
potential is justified.
A useful discussion would be on where the boundaries of the field lie
currently lie, not to exclude or police but with the aim of keeping its
focus and developing practice within the context of current social,
political and economic realities. I'm not sure whether debating whether
certain psychologies 'should really be involved in politics, the media
and community' really hits the mark for me.

On 20/02/2016 08:25, richard pemberton wrote:
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
>> It depends how you define a field or how you want to carve and police psychology ? Cross section and divisional events are rare in British psychology? People seem to generally like to talk amongst their own. I am going to it but not speaking. How do you become/know you are a community psychologist?
>>
>> I have heard no talk of a clinical community psychology faculty! We have a clinical health faculty. I have been advocating that 'we get organised around health and wellbeing boards and public health in general. It has been hard to get momentum on this. I haven't however given up and have plans to try and move this forward when I finish my stint as DCP chair.
>>
>> It is important that the President and President elect are speaking at it as they are seeking to reinvent the BPS. I wonder what sort of community psychology structure or profile community psychologists would want.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 19 Feb 2016, at 14:55, Carl Walker<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Completely agree Mark.
>>>
>>> Carl Walker
>>> SASS
>>> University of Brighton
>>> 01273 643475
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Mark Burton [[log in to unmask]]
>>> Sent: 19 February 2016 11:06
>>> To:[log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] Fwd: Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more - 11 March 2016, Birmingham
>>>
>>> This is strange.  Has the BPS compsy section had any involvement in this event?
>>> While interest of clinical psychologists in politics, action and the world beyond the consulting room is to be welcomed, it does seem strange that (so far as I know) none of the speakers is from the community psychology field.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject:        Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more - 11 March 2016, Birmingham
>>> Date:   Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:54:39 +0000
>>> From:   [comsec] Network Announcements<[log in to unmask]><mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>> Reply-To:network.comsec@lists.bps.org.uk<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>> To:mark.burton@poptel.org<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pre-Qualification Group Annual Conference 2016
>>> Community Psychology: Thinking more, speaking more, doing more
>>> #PQGconf
>>>
>>> Friday 11 March 2016
>>>
>>> The Studio Venue, Birmingham
>>>
>>> Join fellow pre and in-training peers, qualified clinicians and experts by experience at the 2016 DCP PQG Annual Conference. This event promises the chance to consider how critical and community approaches to psychology can be applied in interesting and novel ways. This conference aims to open up dialogues among future clinical psychologists and the public, to help shape creative and empowering interventions that go beyond routine practice and change conventional practices for something different and potentially better.
>>> Learning outcomes and objectives;
>>> Attendees will gain of an understanding of and insight into:
>>> •         What does it mean to be a psychologist in the 'real world'
>>> •         Should clinical psychology really be involved in politics, the media and community?
>>> •         How to design, plan and evaluate interventions beyond the scope of conventional 'therapy'
>>> •         What community psychology can look like across the lifespan
>>> •         How to critique and engage with different perspectives
>>> •         How to involve service-users and experts-by-experience throughout our work
>>> •         How clinical psychologists are trying to change the world for the better
>>>
>>> We've got a great line up of speakers and here's who we have confirmed so far:
>>>
>>> Jamie Hacker-Hughes (BPS President)
>>> Masuma Rahim (Clinical Psychologist & Blogger)
>>> Lisa Cameron (Clinical Psychologist and MP)
>>> Psychologist Against Austerity PAA
>>> Rufus May (Clinical Psychologist) & Elisabeth Svanholmers (Hearing Voices Network Trainer & Facilitator)
>>> Minorities in Clinical Training Group
>>> Nina Browne (Trainee Clinical Psychologist) & Kat Alcock (Clinical Psychologist)
>>> Sarah Wheeler & Thomas Tobias (Founders of Mental Fight Club & Dragon Cafe)
>>> Walk The Talk Team
>>> Peter Kinderman (Clinical Psychologist and BPS President Elect)
>>> Anne Cooke (Clinical Psychologist)
>>>
>>> Attending the conference starts for as little as £20!
>>>
>>> Fees (Inclusive VAT):
>>> DCP Pre-Qual Members £20
>>> DCP Members £30
>>> Society Member £36
>>> Affiliate Subscribers £44
>>> E Subscribers £47
>>> Non-Society Members £48
>>>
>>> Lunch and refreshments provided throughout the day
>>>
>>> The Pre-Qualification Group look forward to welcoming you to this years Annual Conference 2016
>>>
>>> For further information or to book:http://www.kc-jones.co.uk/pqg2016
>>>
>>> If you have any queries please contact please call the event hotline on 01332 224507.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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