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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture It was certainly assumed that the Norman church was contemptuous of Anglo-Saxon saints but Susan Ridyard has argued convincingly that this is a simplification (in '"Condigna veneratio": post-Conquest attitudes to the saints of the Anglo-Saxons', _Anglo-Norman Studies_,9, 1986, 179-206). She points out that, although St Etheldreda and her associated female royal saints at Ely initially served as a rallying-point for the Anglo-Saxon resistance, they were subsequently appropriated to defend the rights of the Norman monks against king and bishop. Meanwhile at Bury St Edmunds a French abbot welcomed the Normans but used the cult of St Edmund to defend his position. Similar patterns could be found at St Albans, Malmesbury (St Aldhelm) and Durham (St Cuthbert). There is said to be a church dedicated to Brice in south Wales, the church of Eglwys Brewis, now a pathetic ruin in the St Athan air base. But this is probably a late dedication to explain the name of the church rather than the other way on: one theory is that the church takes its name from William de Braose, a Norman bishop of Llandaff. Maddy --- Prof. Madeleine Gray University of South Wales http://www.heritagetortoise.co.uk http://twitter.com/heritagepilgrim 'You say to yourself in your mid-60s, how much time am I going to have, do I want to slow down?' (Charlotte Rampling) On 13/11/2015 16:08, Mariano Paniello wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > Not to cast a pall(ium) over our remembrance, but in connection with St Brice one should mention, at least as a footnote, the St Brice's Day Massacre during the reign of Aethelred II (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Brice%27s_Day_massacre [1]). This raises a question for me though: did his cult fall out of favor around 1100, and if so, was it at least in part due to the massacre, or did Saxon saints in general fall out of favor in the wake of the Norman invasion? > > MP > >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 04:15:26 -0500 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [M-R] St Brice 13th November >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture >> >> One image: >> >> St Brice 13th November >> >> Brice (died 444) was bishop of Tours. He was educated at Martin's monastery at Marmoutiers, though eventually becoming a critic of him. Nevertheless, he succeeded Martin in 397. His long episcopate was marked by ups and downs, with him being accused of adultery on one occasion. Brice went to Rome and was finally vindicated and he returned to Tours after a seven year exile. By 470 his cult was established at Tours, spreading soon to Italy and England. He was almost universally present in English monastic calendars before 1100 and his feast was also in the Sarum calendar. >> >> Wells Cathedral, sII, A2, c.1325: >> >> Wells Cathedral, SIII, 2a-3a, c1340-45: >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/22274117@N08/14969512111 >> >> Gordon Plumb >> >> ********************************************************************** >> To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME >> to: [log in to unmask] >> To send a message to the list, address it to: >> [log in to unmask] >> To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion >> to: [log in to unmask] >> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >> [log in to unmask] >> For further information, visit our web site: >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion [2] Links: ------ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Brice%27s_Day_massacre [2] http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion