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My experience is that this happens to some extent with every pitch or tender I submit. The commissioners nearly always want to see your ideas for how you would approach the job and as far as I know there is no way of protecting those ideas - nothing to stop them appropriating your pitch and hiring someone else to do it! *Pete Brown* *Museum and gallery access, learning & interpretation* +44 (0)7811 693870 skype: petebrbrown58 petebrbrown.co.uk [image: Description: Description: Description: https://asdf.secure.force.com/servlet/servlet.FileDownload?retURL=%2Fapex%2FWEBChampionSessionResources&file=00P2000000bMvFbEAK] On 18 November 2015 at 11:17, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I'd say absolutely don't do it, and you're right to question it. > > There is a lot in the web world about this - under the label "nospec" > > See particularly http://www.nospec.com/ which gives a good set of > responses / thoughts on why spec work is a bad idea > > cheers > > Mike > > > > _____________________________ > > > *Mike Ellis * > > Thirty8 Digital: a small but perfectly formed digital agency: > http://thirty8.co.uk > > * My book: http://heritageweb.co.uk * > > > > Kirsty Sullivan wrote: > > This was doing the rounds on social media a couple of weeks ago - a sound engineering friend of mine shared it. I think it makes a nice point about expectations of creative/non-creative people! > http://www.photographybay.com/2015/11/05/watch-what-happens-when-you-ask-non-creative-professionals-to-work-for-free/ > > Kirsty > > > > Kirsty Sullivan > Programme Manager (Schools) > Museum of London Docklands > West India Quay > London E14 4AL > Tel: 020 7001 9835 > Email: [log in to unmask] > > > P Before printing, pleasethink about the environment > > -----Original Message----- > From: List for discussion of issues in museum education in the UK. [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Emma Metcalfe > Sent: 18 November 2015 10:53 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Free Pitching/Being asked to work for free to 'pitch' for work > > Hi everyone, > > I know this subject has cropped up quite a bit in the past, but I can't find anything more recent than 2014. I've been sent a brief which requires doing some artwork to submit as part of a proposal with no guarantee of being chosen for the job. I know people talked about putting together some GEM guidance on writing briefs for freelancers, did that happen? Or can anyone recommend any up to date resources on the subject. > > I've replied to the enquiry explaining why I don't normally do free pitching, because I think often these kind of briefs come about totally innocently, rather than people setting out to be unreasonable. But it would be useful if there was some conclusive guidance (particularly something from the heritage sphere) on the subject. > > Many Thanks > > Emma > > Emma Metcalfe Illustrationwww.emillustration.co.uk > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > > GEM list: Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] > > For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > > GEM list: Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] > > For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + GEM list: Contact the list owner > for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information about > joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list > website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM + + + + + + > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + GEM list: Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=GEM + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +