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I was speaking largely historically through oral tradition. My brother worked an traditional/historical farm and some of the older visitors (on seeing the modern incubators and heat lamps) told historical tales of chickens, in their grandfather's days, being brought into heated building such as blacksmiths and drying areas in order to encourage lay, keep the birds healthy, and aid the incubation of eggs. What level of accuracy is here is open to debate. Whilst they were talking about chickens I wondered if (despite their much lower egg yield) the same might hold true for geese. Chicken presence in e.g. blacksmith buildings is also a fairly common theme in historical paintings such as: http://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/turner-a-country-blacksmith-disputing-upon-the-price-of-iron-and-the-price-charged-to-the-n00478 , http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/T/T06/T06309_10.jpg although here they are perhaps more likely to be just another pretty part of the countryside scene ideal. If I recall correctly it has been postulated as an interpretation in some archaeological contexts too such as where high proportions of eggs (including hatched specimens) were found in a blacksmith shop: Drummond-Murray, J., Thompson, P., and Cowan, C. 2002 Settlement in Roman Southwark: archaeological excavations (1991-8) for the London Underground Limited Jubilee Line Extension Project. London: Museum of London Archaeology Service. Of course the other interpretation might be that someone was cooking their lunch in the vicinity! All the best, Julia Dr Julia Best Post-Doctoral Research Associate Department of Archaeology, Anthropology and Forensic Science, Faculty of Science and Technology Bournemouth University Christchurch House, Talbot Campus, Poole, BH12 5BB Tel: +44 (0)1202 962074 Room: CG23 -----Original Message----- From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anne Birgitte Gotfredsen Sent: 26 October 2015 11:47 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Goose bones and kilns Hi Julia, Do you have any reference on that interesting information? All the best Gitte Anne Birgitte Gotfredsen Ph.D., Post. doc. University of Copenhagen Natural History Museum of Denmark, Zoological Museum Universitetsparken 15 2100 Copenhagen Ø DIR +45 35321086 [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Julia Best Sent: 26. oktober 2015 12:39 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] Goose bones and kilns Interesting. Do you have any particular elements present or is the majority of the skeleton represented? I have heard of laying birds being kept near (but not too near!) warm structures such as kilns and blacksmith's forges to encourage lay and also for eggs to aid hatching. Any eggshell to go along with the medullary bone? All the best, Julia Dr Julia Best Post-Doctoral Research Associate Department of Archaeology, Anthropology and Forensic Science, Faculty of Science and Technology Bournemouth University Christchurch House, Talbot Campus, Poole, BH12 5BB Tel: +44 (0)1202 962074 Room: CG23 -----Original Message----- From: Analysis of animal remains from archaeological sites [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Julia Cussans Sent: 26 October 2015 11:07 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [ZOOARCH] Goose bones and kilns Hello All, I have a collection of goose bones (MNI=4) from a posthole associated with a corn-drying kiln dated to the 10-13th Centuries from the East of England. Is anyone aware of any similar occurrences? Either birds in association with kilns or just large collection of goose bones. The assemblage includes some butchered elements and some medullary bone. Any references, pdfs etc gratefully received. Many thanks in advance. 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