We started a festival in 2010 with one unpaid volunteer who has been ft paid for five years now...  I know where he stands on this issue. 

I am happy to hand on volunteering posts and other reasonable unpaid start up type work to all my students and others who are starting out.
Michael Stewart
UCL

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On 26 Oct 2015, at 17:28, Amy Tyndall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> Please please stop with the unpaid job ads on this list

 

Please please stop with the exceedingly rude, sarcastic, abrasive responses to such adverts. If you don't want to work unpaid, then fine, don't apply! However, for some of us, such options can prove invaluable if taken. I worked unpaid for 15 months in astronomy outreach for a major organisation to get the experience I wanted and needed, and that experience has now landed me some fantastic job opportunities I would never have been able to get otherwise. Sarah is well within her right to search for willing participants, readers of this list are well within their rights to respond positively and take up the offer without fear of being judged or being made to feel that they are beneath the rest of you because you are lucky enough to have been offered paid work.

 

The almost vicious replies I read on this list make me increasingly tempted to leave it. Surely we're all on the same side, here?! Or maybe the moderators can clear up exactly who this list is aimed at - I thought it was for job/work opportunities, but please correct me if I'm wrong and there's something I am missing here. I am not interested in being part of a debate forum.

 

Sarah - good luck with your project, I am happy you have had a good response so far!

 

Amy
 


Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:47:02 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Raremark: looking for students interested in getting digital health content / science writing experience
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Sarah Says:

 

I have some unpaid science writing experience available

 

Sarah has no money

 

What is Sarah offering?

·         No experience necessary

Whose experience is unnecessary?

·         Summary writing training if you need it – in person or remotely

You will need it

·         Real-world work experience that you can put on your CV

See this list passim

·         Exposure to working for a tech start-up

Yep

·         Flexibility to work in your own time and from home

I like to think of all of my unpaid time as my own

·         Although unpaid for now, the possibility for future employment

I like to think of future employment as a pre-existing possibility

·         Based on your level of contribution, we may also give you references

There's generous

Please please stop with the unpaid job ads on this list

 

ben

 

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From: psci-com: on public engagement with science [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Venugopal
Sent: 26 October 2015 14:24
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [PSCI-COM] Raremark: looking for students interested in getting digital health content / science writing experience

 

Hi all

 

I have some unpaid science writing experience available for undergraduate or postgraduate students interested, with potential for future paid employment. Raremark is a growing tech start-up in healthcare based in London, which aims to improve the lives of people living with a rare disease.

We need science communicators (as its unpaid, looking for those interested in getting some experience for now) who can summarise scientific articles in a concise and engaging way for patients and carers, and want the experience of writing digital health content.

 

What are we offering?

·         No experience necessary

·         Summary writing training if you need it – in person or remotely

·         Real-world work experience that you can put on your CV

·         Exposure to working for a tech start-up

·         Flexibility to work in your own time and from home

·         Although unpaid for now, the possibility for future employment

·         Based on your level of contribution, we may also give you references

If you’re interested, know anyone that’s interested, or want to know more, email me at [log in to unmask]

 

Thanks!

Sarah

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