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The main issue isn't that people don't benefit from unpaid work, its that a lucky few with enough money to be able to do. Congratulations on getting fantastic job opportunities, these would be completely out of reach to many other people. On 26/10/15 16:17, Amy Tyndall wrote: > > >> Please please stop with the unpaid job ads on this list > > Please please stop with the exceedingly rude, sarcastic, > abrasive responses to such adverts. If you don't want to work unpaid, > then fine, don't apply! However, for some of us, such options can > prove invaluable if taken. I worked unpaid for 15 months in astronomy > outreach for a major organisation to get the experience I wanted and > needed, and that experience has now landed me some fantastic job > opportunities I would never have been able to get otherwise. Sarah is > well within her right to search for willing participants, readers of > this list are well within their rights to respond positively and take > up the offer without fear of being judged or being made to feel that > they are beneath the rest of you because you are lucky enough to have > been offered paid work. > > The almost vicious replies I read on this list make me > increasingly tempted to leave it. Surely we're all on the same side, > here?! Or maybe the moderators can clear up exactly who this list is > aimed at - I thought it was for job/work opportunities, but please > correct me if I'm wrong and there's something I am missing here. I am > not interested in being part of a debate forum. > > Sarah - good luck with your project, I am happy you have had a good > response so far! > > Amy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 14:47:02 +0000 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [PSCI-COM] Raremark: looking for students interested in > getting digital health content / science writing experience > To: [log in to unmask] > > *Sarah Says*: > > I have some unpaid science writing experience available > > *Sarah has no money* > > *What is Sarah offering?* > > ·No experience necessary > > *Whose experience is unnecessary?* > > ·Summary writing training if you need it – in person or remotely > > *You will need it* > > ·Real-world work experience that you can put on your CV > > *See this list passim* > > ·Exposure to working for a tech start-up > > *Yep* > > ·Flexibility to work in your own time and from home > > *I like to think of all of my unpaid time as my own* > > ·Although unpaid for now, the possibility for future employment > > *I like to think of future employment as a pre-existing possibility* > > ·Based on your level of contribution, we may also give you references > > *There's generous* > > Please please stop with the unpaid job ads on this list > > ben > > *Ben Johnson > *Graphic Science > > Part of The Training Group - /Supporting public engagement in the > research community/ > > (+44 (0) 1275 47 44 44 > È +44 (0) 7521 690 724 > › [log in to unmask] > :**www.graphicscience.co.uk > Disclaimer: The author of this email never meant a word of it. > > do you really need to print this email? > > *From:*psci-com: on public engagement with science > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Sarah Venugopal > *Sent:* 26 October 2015 14:24 > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [PSCI-COM] Raremark: looking for students interested in > getting digital health content / science writing experience > > Hi all > > I have some unpaid science writing experience available for > undergraduate or postgraduate students interested, with potential for > future paid employment.**Raremark is a growing tech start-up in > healthcare based in London, which aims to improve the lives of people > living with a rare disease. > > We need science communicators (as its unpaid, looking for those > interested in getting some experience for now) who can summarise > scientific articles in a concise and engaging way for patients and > carers, and want the experience of writing digital health content. > > *What are we offering?* > > ·No experience necessary > > ·Summary writing training if you need it – in person or remotely > > ·Real-world work experience that you can put on your CV > > ·Exposure to working for a tech start-up > > ·Flexibility to work in your own time and from home > > ·Although unpaid for now, the possibility for future employment > > ·Based on your level of contribution, we may also give you references > > If you’re interested, know anyone that’s interested, or want to know > more, email me at [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Thanks! > > Sarah > > ********************************************************************** > > Commands - send an email (any subject) to [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> with one of the following messages > (ignoring text in brackets) > • set psci-com nomail (to stop receiving messages while on holiday) • > set psci-com mail (to resume getting messages) • signoff psci-com (to > leave the list) • Subscribe here > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com > Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Small print and JISCMail > acceptable use policy > https://sites.google.com/site/pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print > ********************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** > Commands - send an email (any subject) to [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> with one of the following messages > (ignoring text in brackets) > • set psci-com nomail (to stop receiving messages while on holiday) • > set psci-com mail (to resume getting messages) • signoff psci-com (to > leave the list) • Subscribe here > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com > Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Small print and JISCMail > acceptable use policy > https://sites.google.com/site/pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print > ********************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** > > Commands - send an email (any subject) to [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> with one of the following messages > (ignoring text in brackets) > > • set psci-com nomail (to stop receiving messages while on holiday) • > set psci-com mail (to resume getting messages) • signoff psci-com (to > leave the list) • Subscribe here > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com > > Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> Small print and JISCMail > acceptable use policy > https://sites.google.com/site/pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print > > ********************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** Commands - send an email (any subject) to [log in to unmask] with one of the following messages (ignoring text in brackets) • set psci-com nomail (to stop receiving messages while on holiday) • set psci-com mail (to resume getting messages) • signoff psci-com (to leave the list) • Subscribe here https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=psci-com Contact list owner at [log in to unmask] Small print and JISCMail acceptable use policy https://sites.google.com/site/pscicomjiscmail/the-small-print **********************************************************************