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Chrisman Cooley wrote a long review of a reading of mine at Jacket a while back. He basically created sheet music, and used this to talk about poetry as written and performed. It was quite fascinating. I hope to someday finish a book of mine using this approach together with varying color sound ideas. Others of my poetry acquaintances who are musicians (rock) usually draw a distinction between poems and lyrics, except when they don't! Franklin Bruno, Chris Stroffolino, Thurston Moore, Lydia Lunch, Lee Renaldo, John Doe, Mike Watt, Exene Cervenka. John Cage. There's a new segue series season starting, and it is also writers who are musicians (I ran two such in Los Angeles). Watts poets, Amde Hamiltons solo work, talan memmot, Historically, the Dadas, Schwitters... I have heard some very lovely lieder from Whitman poems (and also some terrible ones). As you are aware, some are fervent about the ghost of meter, some write in meter so it will sound good because, and even some fairly well known poets, Anne Carson, in my critical opinion, are training their ears gradually through the work. Louis Zukofsky should be mentioned here, the Canto of A he cowrote with his wife, his son's violin virtuosity, his early friendliness and moral support of Creeley. Rachel Bleu Duplessis just has always had a great ear, in my opinion. I dislike Joy Harjo 's work, Janie Cortez and many jazz poets are interesting, and our very own Shiela Murphy, Jukka pekka kervinen, Peter ganick are all musicians. Mallarme. All best, Catherine On Monday, October 5, 2015, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes. I felt that compulsion. I lived for some years with a woman who seemed > to hate I M and all her works; it's taken me a while to shake off that > influence.... > I am not that given to novels at the best of times. > I may give it a go then. > > Just reread du Maurier Rebecca sitting day after day a beach. I was in a > mood for it as my train had gone through Par. Well, it has to if you go SW > I mean that I noticed Par going by. > > A novel of hers called I think House of the Strand ranges around there. > It's a bit bonkers and that commends it to me; and then someone had left > Rebecca in the washroom of the campsite > > Anyway, I read Rebecca and found that too is "a lot better than it > sounds"... the flavour isn't there really except by implication and that > seems to have scared Hitchcock; but that suggestion of something intangible > suits it quite well > > Anyway more than a few days spent in front of the sea reminded me of the R4 > play. > > So, I shall give it a go. Robert Harris' 3rd cicero first.... I'm probably > a good-bad novel person > > L > > On 5 October 2015 at 15:56, Tim Allen < > [log in to unmask] <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > It's one of the handful of Murdochs that I've read Lawrence and I found > it > > a rather strange but quite compelling book. I heard the R4 adaptation too > > and all it did really was give a flavour. > > > > Cheers > > > > Tim > > > > On 5 Oct 2015, at 15:53, Lawrence Upton wrote: > > > > > heard a R4 production of Iris Murdoch's The Sea, The Sea. I havent > read > > > it and found almost everyone and thing in it a bit odd > > > > > > It stayed with me though but as it has stayed I have begun to think > that > > > there must be a lot more to it than that. I got a story and suggestions > > of > > > subplots. I suspect it was greatly simplified. > > > > > > Generally, and we are I know some distance from Poetry or Music now, > I'd > > > prefer a reading of the original. Ulysses was good and I say that > though > > I > > > don't much like Ulysses. > > > > > > L > > > > > > -- > If you have received from me a bogus email offering passworded files, I do > apologise. It was not I; but I am sorry. > Just delete the horrid thing, please. > And please let me know if it happens again. > It shouldn't happen again but then it shouldn't have happened the first > time.Please blame gmail! and if you have dealings with British Gas and HSBC > and therefore have data about you on their system take heart from knowing > that they accepted that bogus email as reliable >