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HI I can concur with Louise as I also taught on the same course (pre Louise). :) From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Louise Huscroft Sent: 08 October 2015 14:35 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] SEQOHS & SCPHN - important feedback please. Due to my experience I may have a different view point. I would agree that when I completed my BSc in 1997-1999 it did not full equip me for todays practice. In 2008 I joined Teesside University and for 4 years taught the SCPHN BSc (NMC approved) and had to learn it to teach it. I am now back in practice and fully appreciate the benefit I gained from this as I feel this has fully prepared me for todays challenges. The Teesside course does have an Occupational Health pathway and the generic modules are applied accordingly. I can't stress enough the importance of gaining knowledge and experience in Public Health strategies and Health Needs assessments from an OH perspective. The course also includes a Health and Safety module and an OH module with attendance management (including an OSCE) and health surveillance. And the important thing to remember is that it requires a specific number of practice hours and supervision and sign off by a Qualified Practice Teacher. I absolutely agree that some of the courses may not be as focused on the OH element and that some very good courses do not have NMC registration. I think the ideal course should be tailored to OH but also have the Public Health elements and the Practice Teacher sign off. I am proud of my NMC registration and feel that it would be a shame to lose it. I hope this helps. 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Opinions and conclusions expressed in this email are those of the sender and not of Team Prevent UK Ltd. Please note that email traffic data and also the content of emails may be monitored for the purposes of staff training and security. Team Prevent UK Ltd Registered Office: First Floor Steadings Barn, Pury Hill Business Park, Nr Alderton, Towcester, Northamptonshire, NN12 7LS Registered in England No 5770728 VAT No: 883 0646 08 From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: 08 October 2015 11:07 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] SEQOHS & SCPHN - important feedback please. Importance: High Dear List I am canvassing opinions regarding how important NMC SCPHN registration is to OHN practitioners and OH Services. Your feedback is important. There are some universities that have developed excellent courses which are totally focused on OH practice but do not confer SCPHN registration. Three MSc courses which are/were exemplars of this include Birmingham, Nottingham and Surrey. For many years the Surrey Course was approved by the appropriate bodies for nursing education initially the ENB then NMC. A decision was then made not to gain such validation and the MSc was run with university validation but without NMC approval. This mean that it was not an NMC approved SCPHN course. These courses are/were: * totally focused on occupational health * multi-disciplinary in nature: a range of professional groups accessed them including those practicing in medicine, nursing, health and safety and occupational hygiene. The course content of SCPHN programmes are not all the same. The standards which must be met are very broad and are focused on public health but there is no requirement for specific OH content. It is possible to have a course which is totally focused on OH issues and likewise it is possible to validate a course which is very public health focused but much with less OH content delivered in the classroom. Laying my cards on the table if I had shortlisted two applicants for say a band 6 OHN post both had comparable OH practice experience one of whom held SCPHN registration with minimal OH specific content and the other held a qualification which is totally OH focused, such as outlined in para 1 I would appoint the latter. There seems to be a common belief that it is a requirement of SEQOHS that there must be at least OHNs must be SCPHN. https://www.seqohs.org/DocumentStore/fom_seqohs.pdf The SEQOHS standards are not that specific, it seems to be that having SCPHN is how service managers interpret those standards. Are any JISC subscribers SEQOHS accreditors? SEQOHS standards require that: C 1.1 An OHS must ensure that clinical staff are registered with the relevant regulatory body on the appropriate part(s) of its register(s) - I would take that to be a nurse who is registered on part one of the NMC register as an adult or mental health nurse, not a nurse who is qualified in paediatrics C2.1 An OHS must employ at least one occupational health professional who has a qualification in occupational medicine or nursing - this is elaborated on as follows. The names and qualifications of at least one nurse with a recognised qualification in Occupational Health Nursing from a UK University together with demonstrable experience. That qualification has to be recognised but the standards do not make it explicit that it has to confer SCPHN registration. This calls into question the "Differing fields of practice" circular from the NMC which endorses a SCPHN registrant, eg an SN or HV moving into a differing field of practice with a minimum of 10 weeks of OH experience which has to be signed off by a practice teacher discussed at some length earlier this year. See attached Finally, as many of you will be aware there is current debate as to whether SCPHN is fit for purpose and the SCPHN register could be disestablished in the next few years. Would a degree focused on OH Nursing with NEBOSH accreditation and perhaps some form of FOM approval should that be possible, but without NMC SCPHN approval be attractive to practitioners, OH services generally and services with SEQOHS in particular? Your feedback would be gratefully received Anne Anne Harriss Associate Professor and Course Director London South Bank University ******************************** Please remove this footer before replying. 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