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Just for the record Peter, Wolfgang's post was the first time I, for one, knew your book had been shortlisted. I've been on FcBk but haven't been scrolling down, just stuck in a particularly sticky thread for two days. One question, if as you say below, "I looked upon the shortlisting as a recognition not only of me and Tony, but of all the almost completely unacknowledged poets who taught and influenced me from the 1960s onwards", how does this square with your post saying prizes don't have anything to do with poetry? Cheers Tim On 6 Oct 2015, at 12:23, Peter Riley wrote: > In using a shorthand designation of "this innovative community`' , Wolfgang , I wasn't referring to people like you who operate in a different field as editor and critics, nor any poet in particular, Tim. No one is obliged to react whatsoever. But there was a definite sense of a sniffy disregard in vaguely defined "innovative" fields. Other people noticed this. Peter Hughes commented on Facebook that no one seems to have paid much attention to the fact... The Guardian too was infuriatingly uninterested in anyone except Claudia Rankine. > > I looked upon the shortlisting as a recognition not only of me and Tony, but of all the almost completely unacknowledged poets who taught and influenced me from the 1960s onwards, fine poets (with problems of course) all still viewed, if at all, as aberrations of some kind, and at least six of whom have died recently. > > pr