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Hello, One of the interesting things about creating design theory is looking at boundary conditions - what is best regarded as being included in the concept of design activity and what is not. Three questions that seem to not yet be well answered: 1. Do photographers design? 2. If so, what specifically is the design process that is used and to what does it apply? 3. What is the output of the design process? Clearly, the output of a design process isn't a made object. That would be craft or art. I'm wondering whether photography got included in the design disciplines because of its association with art and because graphic designers use photographers as part of their process (but that of itself isn't suffficient to define something as design activity - I vacuum the floor of my office but that doesn't make the vacuum cleaner a designer). Then the question is in terms of design theory, 'Should photography be regarded as a design discipline?' Same question of course also applies to illustration. This is the reverse side of the same arguments that suggest service design and other new design fields should be regarded as design activities. Best wishes, Terry -- Dr Terence Love PhD (UWA), B.A. (Hons) Engin, PGCE. FDRS, MISI Love Services Pty Ltd PO Box 226, Quinns Rocks Western Australia 6030 Tel: +61 (0)4 3497 5848 Fax:+61 (0)8 9305 7629 <mailto:[log in to unmask]> [log in to unmask] -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------