Dear all,

As some of you have noticed, I engaged Lisa McKenzie in a debate of sorts on Twitter yesterday. Her responses revealed that she has thought very little about the kind of critique made by Julia, Yasmin and Bridget in their excellent response. She confined herself to repeating that she was unable to make her full critique in a 1200 word newspaper article and then descended into insulting appraisals of academics who she portrayed as lefty ivory tower dwellers who shout 'racism' every time the word class is mentioned. The extent to which her own discourse unwittingly mirrored some of that on the far right was noteworthy.

I am trying to compile a Storify of the tweets and will mail it to the list. However, for the moment this screen grab sums up the problems in McKenzie's approaching my mind.

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Alana Lentin

On 21 Sep 2015, at 23:07, Natalia Bremner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thanks Kjartan. Can I just say I really appreciate this mailing list. Also, Kehinde Andrews, keep the Guardian articles coming.

 

But I am going to risk sticking my oar in here (I was called a white supremacist last week in the ‘Why is my curriculum white?’ facebook group last week, so feeling a bit gung-ho. Apologies).

 

I haven’t read the original article article, and now that it has been appropriated by the BNP I don’t really want to. But I have read some of Lisa McKenzie’s work on her research in the St Anne’s estate in Nottingham. I thought it was excellent.

 

Can I just say that I don’t agree with the use of titles (Dr, Prof) in the response letter. The authors should have either used them for everyone (so Dr Lisa McKenzie), or not at all. Otherwise, for me at least, it smacks of academic anxiety – which of course it shouldn’t.

 

Best wishes,

Natalia

 

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Sent: 21 September 2015 14:05
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Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article

 

Dear all,

 

Seems like Runnymede's publication Who Cares about the White Working Class?  may still be relevant to the debate:

 

http://www.runnymedetrust.org/publications/116/32.html

 

I particularly draw your attention to Wendy Bottero's excellent turn of phrase:

 

"If we really want to understand disadvantage, we need to shift our attention from who fights over the scraps from the table, to think instead about how much the table holds, and who really gets to enjoy the feast."

 

It's depressing that we still need to make this simple argument.

 

Kjartan

 

 

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From: ULRIKE VIETEN <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 21/09/2015 12:52 (GMT+00:00)
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Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article

Thanks Aaron,

 

I did not read it when it appeared in the Guardian last week. So, what do people on this list make of it?

 

Best, Ulrike

 

 

On Monday, 21 September 2015, 12:43, "Tufail, Waqas" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

​The BNP have used their Twitter account to seemingly endorse the article (see attached screenshot). Perhaps this counts as impact?

 

Waqas​

 

Dr Waqas Tufail

Senior Lecturer in Criminology

School of Social, Psychological and Communication Sciences

Faculty of Health and Social Sciences

Leeds Beckett University

Calverley Building

Leeds 

LS1 3HE


From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Aaron Winter <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 21 September 2015 12:20
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article

 

Thank you Nirmal. That letter is included in the link I sent. It is very good and a much needed response. If members would like to respond, this email list is available for organising it.

Best,
Aaron

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From: Nirmal Puwar [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 21 September 2015 12:12
To: [log in to unmask]; Aaron Winter
Cc: Julia O'Connell Davidson; Yasmin Gunaratnam; Bridget Anderson
Subject: Re: Guardian Article


A number of sociologists who work on race have been disturbed by the article which appeared in The Guardian, not least of all because it rehearses the old race v class language of victimology in dichotomous terms with Powellite resonances https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw4vMZDItQo


As a part of this discussion, a short version of a much longer response, co-written by Julia O'Connell-Davidson, Yasmin Gunaratnam and Bridget Anderson, has been published


Here's the letter:


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Education/Pix/pictures/2015/9/21/1442820673728/A-woman-in-German-holds-u-009.jpg?w=1200&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=58ba6dea6e1be0c450e6975e8bafea27]<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other>
Refugee crisis: the tug of war between hospitality and prejudice | Letters | World news | The Guardian
Letters: The most powerless and stigmatised working-class communities in Britain have much in common with migrants
Read more...<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other>


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From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Aaron Winter <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 21 September 2015 11:14
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article

Dear All,

The Guardian recently published this piece by Lisa Mckenzie: 'The refugee crisis will hit the UK's working class areas hardest'. It has received a lot of attention and critical-negative response, and I think it is something that BSA Race and Ethnicity study group and email list members should know about (those who do not already). I am including a link to the article (not an endorsement) and a link to responses to it in the letter section.

Article: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/16/refugee-crisis-hit-uk-working-class-powerless

Letters: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=share_btn_tw

Best,
Aaron


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