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Thanks for sharing that Alana. That Twitter thread was quite something to read. I was struck by a few things in the piece: the racialisation of 'working class' as white, the way in which the piece seems to perpetuate or manifest divide and rule as opposed to challenge it and the ways in which it perpetuates not only racist stereotypes about the sexual threats posed by the racialised other, but the very stereotypes of (white) working class people being racist and susceptible to the far right that she seems to think she is challenging. Moreover, the notion that previous waves/generations of immigrants and refugees are ok, but the problem is the current group and context, reveals a lack of acknowledgement of both racism historically and white privilege. Best, Aaron ________________________________ From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Karim.Murji [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 21 September 2015 15:15 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article Thanks for adding this Alana. I hadn't seen the Twitter exchange. Even within the 140 character format of Twitter it shocking to read 'also I don't think race is central. I think class is'. People on this list hardly need reminding that there is no 'raceless' class, it seems very odd for Lisa to believe there is. Karim ________________________________ From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Alana Lentin [[log in to unmask]] Sent: 21 September 2015 15:04 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article Dear all, As some of you have noticed, I engaged Lisa McKenzie in a debate of sorts on Twitter yesterday. Her responses revealed that she has thought very little about the kind of critique made by Julia, Yasmin and Bridget in their excellent response. She confined herself to repeating that she was unable to make her full critique in a 1200 word newspaper article and then descended into insulting appraisals of academics who she portrayed as lefty ivory tower dwellers who shout 'racism' every time the word class is mentioned. The extent to which her own discourse unwittingly mirrored some of that on the far right was noteworthy. I am trying to compile a Storify of the tweets and will mail it to the list. However, for the moment this screen grab sums up the problems in McKenzie's approaching my mind. [image1.PNG] Alana Lentin On 21 Sep 2015, at 23:07, Natalia Bremner <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Thanks Kjartan. Can I just say I really appreciate this mailing list. Also, Kehinde Andrews, keep the Guardian articles coming. But I am going to risk sticking my oar in here (I was called a white supremacist last week in the ‘Why is my curriculum white?’ facebook group last week, so feeling a bit gung-ho. Apologies). I haven’t read the original article article, and now that it has been appropriated by the BNP I don’t really want to. But I have read some of Lisa McKenzie’s work on her research in the St Anne’s estate in Nottingham. I thought it was excellent. Can I just say that I don’t agree with the use of titles (Dr, Prof) in the response letter. The authors should have either used them for everyone (so Dr Lisa McKenzie), or not at all. Otherwise, for me at least, it smacks of academic anxiety – which of course it shouldn’t. Best wishes, Natalia From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sveinsson,KP (pgr) Sent: 21 September 2015 14:05 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article Dear all, Seems like Runnymede's publication Who Cares about the White Working Class? may still be relevant to the debate: http://www.runnymedetrust.org/publications/116/32.html I particularly draw your attention to Wendy Bottero's excellent turn of phrase: "If we really want to understand disadvantage, we need to shift our attention from who fights over the scraps from the table, to think instead about how much the table holds, and who really gets to enjoy the feast." It's depressing that we still need to make this simple argument. Kjartan Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: ULRIKE VIETEN <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: 21/09/2015 12:52 (GMT+00:00) To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article Thanks Aaron, I did not read it when it appeared in the Guardian last week. So, what do people on this list make of it? Best, Ulrike On Monday, 21 September 2015, 12:43, "Tufail, Waqas" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: The BNP have used their Twitter account to seemingly endorse the article (see attached screenshot). Perhaps this counts as impact? Waqas Dr Waqas Tufail Senior Lecturer in Criminology School of Social, Psychological and Communication Sciences Faculty of Health and Social Sciences Leeds Beckett University Calverley Building Leeds LS1 3HE ________________________________ From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Aaron Winter <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: 21 September 2015 12:20 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article Thank you Nirmal. That letter is included in the link I sent. It is very good and a much needed response. If members would like to respond, this email list is available for organising it. Best, Aaron ________________________________ From: Nirmal Puwar [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] Sent: 21 September 2015 12:12 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>; Aaron Winter Cc: Julia O'Connell Davidson; Yasmin Gunaratnam; Bridget Anderson Subject: Re: Guardian Article A number of sociologists who work on race have been disturbed by the article which appeared in The Guardian, not least of all because it rehearses the old race v class language of victimology in dichotomous terms with Powellite resonances https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw4vMZDItQo As a part of this discussion, a short version of a much longer response, co-written by Julia O'Connell-Davidson, Yasmin Gunaratnam and Bridget Anderson, has been published Here's the letter: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other [https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Education/Pix/pictures/2015/9/21/1442820673728/A-woman-in-German-holds-u-009.jpg?w=1200&q=85&auto=format&sharp=10&s=58ba6dea6e1be0c450e6975e8bafea27]<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other> Refugee crisis: the tug of war between hospitality and prejudice | Letters | World news | The Guardian Letters: The most powerless and stigmatised working-class communities in Britain have much in common with migrants Read more...<http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other> ________________________________ From: Race & Ethnicity Study Group/Forum (BSA) List <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Aaron Winter <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: 21 September 2015 11:14 To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [BSA-RACE] Guardian Article Dear All, The Guardian recently published this piece by Lisa Mckenzie: 'The refugee crisis will hit the UK's working class areas hardest'. It has received a lot of attention and critical-negative response, and I think it is something that BSA Race and Ethnicity study group and email list members should know about (those who do not already). I am including a link to the article (not an endorsement) and a link to responses to it in the letter section. Article: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/sep/16/refugee-crisis-hit-uk-working-class-powerless Letters: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/refugee-crisis-the-tug-of-war-between-hospitality-and-prejudice?CMP=share_btn_tw Best, Aaron ________________________________ This email has been scanned for email related threats and delivered safely by Mimecast. For more information please visit http://www.mimecast.com<http://www.mimecast.com/> ________________________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email list is maintained by the BSA Race & Ethnicity Study Group. 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