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Sent: ‎18/‎07/‎2015 13:40
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Subject: Re: HER/SMRs and GIS

It still makes Avon the 1st to use 'proper' GIS (MapInfo) in 1995/6

David E

On 2015-07-18 12:36, Brian Giggins wrote:

An early paper version was the Milton Keynes Heritage of 1983. It was at 1:2500 scale comprising a street map overlaying the 1880's OS mapping on which was marked the archaeological sites, historic routes, ancient woodland and notable historic buildings within the MK designated area. The authors were Bob Croft and myself.

 

On 18 July 2015 at 09:17, Mike Shaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

That's interesting.  Looks like Somerset may have been the first county to use GIS for EUS.  Although not called a EUS the first such would have been the Central Marches Historic Towns Survey covering Worcestershire, Shropshire and Herefordshire carried out by the Worcestershire Archaeological Service from 1992 but they also used AutoCAD.

 

Mike

 

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From: [log in to unmask]">Chris Webster

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Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: HER/SMRs and GIS

Somerset started GIS (well, digital mapping) in late 1994 using software called FastMap that EH paid for to do the EUS project. We were a (?the)  pilot EUS and certainly got a lot more money than subsequent projects when EH realised that they couldn’t do all the work that they thought could be done. I seem to recall that the original suggestion was an average of 3 days per town (including digitising all the listed buildings).

 

Roy Canham’s Wiltshire work was also not really GIS in that it used AutoCAD to prepare digital maps (on separate Ordnance Survey sheet lines). It was all very wizzy at the time but actually led to a lot of work when the data had to be converted to a seamless GIS layer.

 

Chris Webster

Somerset Historic Environment Record

Somerset Heritage Centre

Brunel Way

Taunton

TA2 6SF

 

01823 347434

 

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Shaw
Sent: 17 July 2015 11:16
To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: HER/SMRs and GIS

 

 

Interesting...I had thought that SMRs were early adopters of GIS but this is earlier than I had expected.

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

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From: [log in to unmask]">Hopkins, David (ENV)

To: [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]

Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:13 AM

Subject: Re: HER/SMRs and GIS

 

You might look at Berkshire or Wiltshire. It was in the very late 1980s that Berkshire was using GIS to display data – In Berkshire we had a lady called Janice in our IT Dept who had specialised in GIS (which was all vey new) for her doctorate and in rolling it out at BCC used the SMR as the test data base to demonstrate the system, so we were able to do really quite good maps at a very early stage. But Wiltshire might have pipped us to the post because I seem to recall Roy Canham was an early adopter and he and I jointly provided some of the early advice to ACAO.

 

Anyway, very late 1980’s

 

David

 

 

David Hopkins
County Archaeologist
Economy, Transport and Environment Department
Elizabeth II Court West, The Castle, Winchester SO23 8UD

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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Shaw
Sent: 17 July 2015 09:56
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: HER/SMRs and GIS

 

It’s Friday so....another set of questions on HER/SMR history, tangentially related to my research, but I thought also of interest to a wider group..  Which was the first HER/SMR to use GIS? I know Essex and Northants were both using it from around 1995.  Also which were the first EUS, UAD and HLC projects to use GIS? EUS possibly Somerset from 1994? Which would also make them an early adopter of GIS for HER.  UAD – Winchester? HLC – Lancashire?  Comments please – Chris, Bob, Pete etc.  Of course there used to be an SMR Newsletter so maybe something in there if anyone still has copies.

Thanks,

Mike

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