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Dear John, Your email reminded me that not long ago I came across a very attractive knucklebone floor and path at Uppark. Did you see that one during your researches? It was the floor of an outdoor game larder, but the bones and teeth seemed to be of sheep and horses rather than deer. I heard from the curator that they had plans to conserve the floor, but don't know any more. It would merit research – as well as conservation – but I did not get any encouragement from the labyrinthine bureaucracy of the National Trust. Best wishes Dale Dale Serjeantson Archaeology School of Humanities University of Southampton Highfield Southampton SO17 1BJ http://www.southampton.ac.uk/archaeology/about/staff/dale.page Birds and Archaeology: New Research. International Journal of Osteoarchaeology Special Issue http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/oa.v24.3/issuetoc From: zooarch <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of John Fletcher <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Reply-To: John Fletcher <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: Monday, 13 July 2015 11:04 To: zooarch <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] animal bone base under clay floor When researching my book Gardens of Earthly Delight – the History of Deer Parks I came across quite a few such floors. There was a fashion for using deer, especially fallow, metapodials as knuckle floors in the late 18th century till the mid 19th. There is one at Bicton House built in 1839. Hope that helps, John Fletcher From: Umberto Albarella<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 6:45 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [ZOOARCH] animal bone base under clay floor Hi Imola, you may find this paper of interest: http://research.historicengland.org.uk/redirect.aspx?id=4064 cheers, Umberto On 13 July 2015 at 05:10, Imola Kelemen <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Dear Zooarchers, does any of you know from experience or ever heard of animal bones being used in/under clay floor as structural base (in any historical time)? We have come across of such a situation in a tell at Semlac, Romania (early bronze age) and I would love to hear about anything similar, anywhere, anytime! Thanks a lot and all the best to you all, Imola Imola Kelemen archaeozoologist Muzeul Secuiesc al Ciucului 530132 Miercurea Ciuc, Piata Cetatii 2. www.csikimuzeum.ro<http://www.csikimuzeum.ro/> -- Umberto Albarella Department of Archaeology University of Sheffield Northgate House West Street Sheffield S1 4ET United Kingdom Telephone: (+) 44 (0) 114 22 22 943 Fax: (+) 44 (0) 114 22 25 109 http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/archaeology/people/albarella For MSc in Osteoarchaeology see: http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/postgraduate/masters/courses-available/osteoarchaeology For Zooarchaeology short course see: http://www.shef.ac.uk/archaeology/research/zooarchaeology-lab/short-course "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death" Martin Luther King