Dear All, I remember asking a question of the RUDYARD KIPLING list not long ago, and having the function of Google explained to me (I had tried it, without success). So, I am a little shy of pointing list members to the internet... but our own Kipling Society Journal is always a reasonable source for Kipling material! From *kiplingsociety.co.uk <http://kiplingsociety.co.uk>* , the *Readers Guide* button leads to a page with the side bar which includes *Searching the Kipling Journal. *Entering *Crosland* in the search box gives 18 references, of which no less than eight are to TWHC. Enjoy! John On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Alastair Wilson <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > Fasinating, quite fascinating. Thank you, George, for sharing that with > us - as you say, Crosland does not coma across well in his Wikipedia entry. > As regards John Seriot's question, I would say that most certainly *The > Absent-minded Mule *and *The Five Notions* were inspired, if that is > quite the word, by Kipling's titles, if not content. > *Alastair Wilson* > > > On 16/07/2015 12:06, George Simmers wrote: > > On 16/07/2015 11:15, john wrote > > There is a Wikipedia entry on Crosland that does not make him sound a very > attractive customer. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_William_Hodgson_Crosland > > A poem of Crosland's called 'The Muddied Oaf' picks up on Kipling's > phrase. Here's part of it: > > I don't know, my dear Muddied Oaf, > How you like being called a Muddied Oaf. > The average Muddied Oaf of my acquaintance > Will not in the least understand > What Muddied Oaf means, > And even when a dozen reporters > Have explained it to him, dictionary in hand, > He will not care. > You cannot take the glory of having crumpled up the Footleum Otspurs out > of a man > By calling him Muddy; > And as for Oaf, > When all is said > It is a poor synonym for "dashing forward." > No, my dear boy, > Phrases out of poems cannot damp your ardours. > And, so far as you are concerned, > Mr. > Rudyard > Kipling > May > Be > Blowed! > > The full poem is in Outlook Poems, at project Gutenberg, which also has > other books by him. > https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37085/37085-h/37085-h.htm > > George > > >