Hello all, just a very knee-jerk reaction to this issue. Whether war hurts the soldiers or not isn’t entirely the issue.
Looking out of my window to a sunny scene of families strolling to the playground across the road from my home…
And wishing you all the benefits of the peace in which we live in the UK,
Wendy
From: The UK Community Psychology Discussion List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tom Wengraf
Sent: 18 July 2015 17:12
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Subject: Re: [COMMUNITYPSYCHUK] {Spam?} Re: Professor Jamie Hacker Hughes, military psychologist, BPS President
It may be that “going to war ought to hurt the soldiers” but it may also be that on occasions it doesn’t. It may be that “destroying the planet for the medium-term benefit of global corporations and the super-rich” ought to hurt the CEOs and others involves, but it may well be that they sleep easy at night and feel satisfied with a lucrative job well done.
Marxist studies of the ‘good conscience’ (false consciousness, as some of it was once called) of people who by rights shouldn’t have one weren’t attacked for “colluding” with this ‘good conscience/false consciousness’: they were held to be good contributions to understandings of how such ‘unconsciousness’ worked and gave ideas as to what could be done about it.
Researching whether particular soldiers “actually do hurt” as a result of what they do, is a useful piece of work to do. If the findings are – from a rather weak piece of research – that they actually don’t……. shows something about the track record of the soldiers and the army: it doesn’t necessarily show evil on the part of the researcher.
To explain why there was no feeling of ‘hurt’ (registering within the methodology)…… that would be a much more interesting piece of research…..
Tom
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Jacqui,
I believe it is useful to go beyond official statements and examine the track record.
Here is a quote from a paper he published in 2005: "These findings suggest that war is not necessarily bad for psychological health." Impressive science, isn't it? The title of the paper, to me, indicates that the there is something fundamentally wrong: "Going to war does not have to hurt: preliminary findings from the British deployment to Iraq." See Going to war does not have to hurt: preliminary findings from the British deployment to Iraq | The British Journal of Psychiatry <http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/186/6/536.full> for details.
<http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/186/6/536.full> Going to war does not have to hurt: preliminary findings from the British deployment to Iraq | The B...
Abstract Summary We carried out a brief longitudinal mental health screen of 254 members of the UK's Air Assault Brigade before and after deployment to Iraq last year.
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Having met a number of people travelling in military circles in Britain, I am very skeptical about anyone who claims to be a military psychologist. And I met him briefly last Saturday in Milano: His words didn't sound like he is in touch with the notion of social justice. Apologies in case I am a bit blunt here.
Serdar
On Saturday, July 18, 2015 9:52 AM, Jacqueline Akhurst <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear all,
I too was sceptical when I read Jamie's resume a year ago, however I
join my voice with Anne and Mark in saying that thus far, Jamie has
shown himself willing to speak out for the marginalised. He will be
participating in 'walk the talk', and I don't think it's all rhetoric.
So, this is perhaps the time for the BPS to be making a stand in a way
that has not been possible in the past, and I support the direction of
'travel'.
Warm regards from a chilly South Africa!
Jacqui :-)
Quoting "Cooke, Anne ([log in to unmask])"
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> Dear Carl, Mark and all,
>
> Here's the statement that Mark was referring to:
>
> http://www.bps.org.uk/news/society-presidential-teams-statement-mental-health-awareness-week
>
> As you say, Mark, the new presidential team have already issued some
> strongly worded statements, for example on coercion of claimants to
> undergo therapy:
>
> http://www.bps.org.uk/blog/presidential/psychology-and-unemployed
>
> and on the Hoffman review:
>
> http://www.bps.org.uk/news/british-psychological-society-statement-apa-hoffman-review.
>
> I think that Jamie Hacker-Hughes is already working quite closely
> with Peter Kinderman (hence the 'Presidential Team') and personally
> I'm very pleased with the direction things are currently taking in
> the BPS. I think we'd be pushing at an open door much more than
> ever before with any suggestions for projects etc. Let's capitalise
> on the next two years as obviously we don't know who will President
> after that.
>
> Have a good weekend all,
>
> Anne
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> At the risk of being flippant, even the APA have taken breaks from
> waterboarding apologism to make strong statements on social justice.
>
> http://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/10/vasquez.aspx
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> military psychologist, BPS President
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> Despite his background, he's been responsible for some strong
> statements on social justice. For example, as I tweeted from
> @LiberationPsyEn a few weeks ago:
>
> A remarkably powerful statement on injustice from Brit Psychology
> Soc Presidential team. But can't find on web
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> Don't always judge a book by its cover....
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> On 17/07/15 21:51, Carl Walker wrote:
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> Thanks for this David. I looking forward to Professor Kinderman's presidency
> Carl
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> In case anyone is unaware, Professor Hacker Hughes is the current
> BPS President:
> http://www.bps.org.uk/news/military-psychologist-new-bps-president
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> And in case you are wondering what a military psychologist does
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> Jamie worked for the MoD as a Consultant Clinical Psychologist from
> 1999 to 2011 and has a particular interest in the psychological
> preparation of troops for military operations and in clinical
> interventions, especially early interventions, to minimise any
> psychological after-effects of combat.
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> Professor Jamie Hacker Hughes CPsychol CSci FBPsS held a short
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