Hi,

thank you both.
I am analyzing a reinforcement learning task in which participants are presented with a pair of stimuli and required to choose one. The choice is followed by a probabilistic feedback (loss, reward or neutral, given the specific condition).
The EV I am looking at is the estimated prediction error used as parametric modulator of the onset of the feedback.
I am using an ROI of the ventral striatum that was independently built for a previous study.
What I usually do is to first look at that EV whole brain level, than I select the small volume and only look at the ROI. At the whole brain level statistics look "normal", and a striatal activation is already evident. This problem only arises when using the small volume option, and it happened also using the same ROI with other contrasts.
I am not sure if these are exactly the kind of things you needed to know, sorry, this is my first fMRI analysis ever.
Are there any other informations that I should give?

Many thanks!


Sara

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On 9 June 2015 at 14:13, MCLAREN, Donald <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Marko,

You are right -- if the correct cluster P-value is larger than the uncorrected cluster P-value, then this is an issue and shouldn't be happening. I misinterpreted the email as the next line asks about peak values. 


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Marko Wilke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi,

but wasn't the question whether uncorrected *cluster-level* p-values can be higher than corrected cluster-level ones? I think the culprit here may be in the ROI/SVC approach, which may mess with the smoothness estimation, depending on how it is done. Perhaps you, Sara, could provide some more details about how you set up your analyses?

Cheers
Marko

MCLAREN, Donald wrote:
Yes. The cluster statistics are always weaker than the individual voxel
significance. I prefer to look at the cluster significance as I don't
believe that the brain would only have differential
activity/connectivity/volume/etc. in a single isolated voxel.

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On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Sara Garofalo <[log in to unmask]
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    Hi all,

    I have some (supposedly) strange results regarding an ROI analysis
    using small volume correction. When looking at cluster-level
    statistics the _uncorrected_ p-value is _not significant_ (e.g.,
    p=.12), while the FEW _corrected_ p-value is _significant_ (e.g.,
    p=.001). Does that make any sense?

    Is it more correct to only look at peak-level statistics?

    Many many thanks,

    Sara



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