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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture At least in German Altväter often refers to Desert Fathers. Meri > Stephen Morris <[log in to unmask]> kirjoitti 22.6.2015 kello 15.57: > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > The "need helpers" are generally called the Fourteen Holy Helpers. The "grandfathers" might be Patriarchs but those would generally be 12, not 24. > > Hmm.., > > Stephen > >> On Jun 22, 2015, at 8:11 AM, "Cormack, Margaret Jean" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture >> >> Greetings all! >> I´m looking at a Danish prayer book in which a prayer naming lots of individual saints concludes with groups, namely the Theban Legion, the 11,000 Virgins, the 15 'need helpers' (how are they referred to in English? Its hard to get the Danish out of my head!), the 24 ollæfær - this is what I really need help with! The closest I can get is the Danish word for grandfather, which hardly makes sense in the context. Patriarchs, perhaps? Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated! >> Meg >> ********************************************************************** >> To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME >> to: [log in to unmask] >> To send a message to the list, address it to: >> [log in to unmask] >> To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion >> to: [log in to unmask] >> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: >> [log in to unmask] >> For further information, visit our web site: >> http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion