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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The sections on material culture are also useful and embody a lot of research (by Paul Barnwell and others). List members who don't know St Teilo's will find the background shots interesting as well - deliberately not generalised medieval but specifically early Tudor, based on a conjectural date of c 1520s for the surviving wall paintings with designs based on early woodcuts. And yes, you may actually see me in the background of some of the iterations - as a very badly-behaved pilgrim in the Mass of our Lady and as a servant of the big house in the Jesus Mass. Maddy Madeleine Gray PhD, FRHistS, FSA Professor of Ecclesiastical History/Athro Hanes Eglwysig School of Humanities and Social Sciences /Ysgol Ddyniaethau a Gwyddoniaethau Cymdeithasol University of South Wales/Prifysgol De Cymru Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion, Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675 http://www.southwales.ac.uk http://twitter.com/penrhyspilgrim http://twitter.com/HeritageUSW http://twitter.com/USWHistory 'Let the victors, when they come, When the forts of folly fall, Find thy body by the wall!' ________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of John Shinners [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 3:58 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [M-R] Liturgy help medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Thanks, Maddy. I just found this great site a few weeks ago and spent a riveting afternoon exploring it and watching one of the masses. I would have mentioned it to the group but somehow assumed you may have already told us about it and I was a "Johnny Come Lately." In any case, if you haven't, everyone should explore it; it's features video reenactments of late medieval services (mass, etc), texts of the service and choir books, commentary on the reenactments, a glossary, etc. (And we get to see Maddy as a "jangling" church-goer sent on pilgrimage as penance!) I plan to mention it as a resource in my book. John On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:01 AM, Madeleine Gray <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture Can't offer to vet it - but do you know the Experience of Worship web site, http://www.experienceofworship.org.uk/ with filmed re-enactments of several Masses and lots more? Maddy Madeleine Gray PhD, FRHistS, FSA Professor of Ecclesiastical History/Athro Hanes Eglwysig School of Humanities and Social Sciences /Ysgol Ddyniaethau a Gwyddoniaethau Cymdeithasol University of South Wales/Prifysgol De Cymru Caerleon Campus/Campws Caerllion, Newport/Casnewydd NP18 3QT Tel: +44 (0)1633.432675 http://www.southwales.ac.uk http://twitter.com/penrhyspilgrim http://twitter.com/HeritageUSW http://twitter.com/USWHistory 'Let the victors, when they come, When the forts of folly fall, Find thy body by the wall!' ________________________________ From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious culture [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] on behalf of John Shinners [[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:26 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: [M-R] Liturgy help medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture I always feel like I’m swimming in treacherous waters whenever I try to explain medieval liturgy. (In hopeless confusion, I dropped the medieval liturgy course I took in grad school after three classes.) For an undergraduate textbook I’m writing on medieval religion, I’ve drawn up a short table laying out the components of a medieval mass. If any of you savvy liturgy folks would be willing to vet it for me, will you private me and I’ll send it along with great thanks? Best, John [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> -- John Shinners Professor, Schlesinger Chair in Humanistic Studies Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 Phone: 574-284-4494 or 574-284-4534 Fax: 284-4855 www.saintmarys.edu/~hust<http://www.saintmarys.edu/~hust> "Learn everything. Later you will see that nothing is superfluous." -- Hugh of St. Victor (d. 1141) ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion -- John Shinners Professor, Schlesinger Chair in Humanistic Studies Saint Mary's College Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 Phone: 574-284-4494 or 574-284-4534 Fax: 284-4855 www.saintmarys.edu/~hust<http://www.saintmarys.edu/~hust> "Learn everything. 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