medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture You are absolutely right to question almost everything written about Redcliffe post-Chatterton, given that so many 'reliable' C19 historians relied on his inventions. But in this case the Cannings sepulchre is legit, indeed the documentation still survives at the Bristol Record Office: it's at P.St MR/ChW/3/a <http://archives.bristol.gov.uk/TreeBrowse.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&field=RefNo&key=P.St+MR%2fChW%2f3%2fa>. I recall detailed published accounts in E.E. Williams, The *Chantries of William Canynges in St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol, with a Survey of Chantries in General and some Events in the Lives of the Canynges Family* (1950) and T. P. Wadley, *Notes or Abstracts of the Wills Contained in the Volume Entitled the Great Orphan Book and Book of Wills in the Council House at Bristol* (1886). Jon Cannon On 21 May 2015 at 04:54, John Shinners <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Pardon a long post: > > > > In his *British Monachism, Or, Manners and Customs of the Monks and Nuns > of England *(1817), the historian Thomas Fosbroke quotes the passage > below describing an Easter Sepulcher constructed for the church of Redcliff > in 1470. He says he got it “from an original manuscript of [Thomas] > Chatterton, when very young, in my possession.” He cross-references it to > a slightly different, older version in William Barrett’s *History and > Antiquities of the City of Bristol* (1789), who delightfully says it > comes from “the days of Popish superstition”! > > > > The stumbling block: Thomas Chatterton is the famous forger of medieval > poetry and documents, especially those relating to Bristol where he was > raised. (He often passed his forgeries off as the work of a 15th-century > monk, “Thomas Rowley.”). Barrett's *History* was riddled with > Chatterton's forgeries. > > > > Does anyone know if this excerpt is a forgery or has it been validated in > other sources? > > > > “Memorandum. That Master Cannings hath delivered, the 4th day of July, in > the year of our Lord 1470, to Master Nicholas Pelles, Vicar of Redclift, > Moses Conterin, Philip Berthelmew, and John Brown, Procurators of Redclift > beforesaid, a new Sepulchre, well guilt with fine gold, and a civer > thereto; an image of God Almighty rising out of the same Sepulchre, with > all the ordinance that longeth thereto; that is to say, a lath made of > timber Heven made of timber and stained cloths. Item, Hell made of timber > and iron work thereto, with Devils the number of thirteen. Item, four > knights armed, keeping the Sepulchre with their weapons in their hands; > that is to say, two spears, two axes with two paves [shields]. Item, four > pair of Angel's wings, for four Angels, made of timber, and well-painted. > Item, the Fadre, the crown and visage, the well (sic, read ball) with a > cross upon it, well gilt with fine gold. Item, the Holy Ghost coming out of > Heven into the Sepulchre. ltem, longeth to the four Angels, four Chiveliers > (Perukes).” > > > Many thanks to the brain trust, > > John > > -- > John Shinners > Professor, Schlesinger Chair in Humanistic Studies > Saint Mary's College > Notre Dame, Indiana 46556 > Phone: 574-284-4494 or 574-284-4534 > Fax: 284-4855 > www.saintmarys.edu/~hust > > "Learn everything. Later you will see that nothing is superfluous." -- > Hugh of St. Victor (d. 1141) > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion