Thanks Rosalyn. I hadn't considered timing issues. Perhaps i could give you a bell later on?
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We currently support students in this exact situation Mike -
Help in Halls with shopping / cooking / washing / get out and about / meeting others / travel home etc is covered by Social Services via the student having been in receipt of a personal budget so he buys the social care support with that.
In Uni - in class, out of class doing work / research / organisation / group projects etc - is funded via DSA.
I did a talk to prospective students on this issue a few weeks ago - it went down very well! NAS has a community care help line - if student has not get got a budget for adult social care support - or I can give you some info on what family need to do to get that started - but it can take months to organise. Social care providers can be paid directly by student - but many can not afford it, but sometimes it is for the period until funding comes through - they can use DLA and ESA - as a student can claim both of these benefits and still be a full time student - and then may attract the Special Support Grant - those funds can help if needed.
Hope that helps,
Rosalyn
Rosalyn LordStudent Support Services Manager (North)The National Autistic Society
North Area: Lancashire Adult & Community Services
From: Discussion list for disabled students and their support staff. [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Michael Parry [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 05 May 2015 18:56
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Subject: Re: ASD undergraduate: DSA provision vs local authority provision
OK, so DSA won't do any of those non-study related things - which makes sense of course, just wanted to make sure I read you right.
Cheers Liz
Mike P
Regards
Mike ParryStudy Needs Assessor/AT Trainer
On 5 May 2015 at 17:24, Elizabeth McGovern <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
No support through dsa for eating, personal care, skills for living type stuff. That would be social services. Not for uni tobpay :-)
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 16:54:46 +0100
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Subject: Re: ASD undergraduate: DSA provision vs local authority provision
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Thanks for that Liz - very useful
"Only thing at uni buildings ss gave paid for I ve seen is practical support with eating and personal care for toilet. Nether apply to your student I don't think ? "
No, as you suggest, I doubt that will apply in this case. But just to clarify - are you saying that the Uni would provide support with eating and personal care (for a student in halls of residence), but the local authority would do cooking and shopping ('skills for living')?
Mike
Regards
Mike ParryStudy Needs Assessor/AT Trainer
On 5 May 2015 at 13:28, Elizabeth McGovern <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Skills for living, cooking, shopping etc. They need a social worker and apply direct payments. Needs discussing with student , what social services support do they have in place already ?
Only thing at uni buildings ss gave paid for I ve seen is practical support with eating and personal care for toilet. Nether apply to your student I don't think ?
Date: Tue, 5 May 2015 09:31:46 +0100
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Subject: ASD undergraduate: DSA provision vs local authority provision
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Hi
I'm just doing a spot of pre-assessment research for a student I am meeting later this week. It's an SFE student with relatively severe ASD, who is likely to be living in Halls of Residence, probably returning home at weekends relatively frequently.
I note the latest nMH descriptor for Band One Practical Support Assistant states that:
"DSAs funding is not available for any aspects that are covered by a local authority care plan. Such support will continue to be provided under the duties placed upon the local authority".
I'm wondering what a local authority care plan might provide in this context and how that might dovetail into DSA provison.
Any comments appreciated.
(apologies for cross posting)
Regards
Mike ParryStudy Needs Assessor/AT Trainer
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