I agree, Heather. We're an independent library and as such we're not part of any consortium so we have to digest and apply RDA on our own and that puts a lot of pressure on us. Although our team of 8 cataloguers plus 2 volunteers may seem large, some of our cataloguers - myself included - have other duties and with 8,000-10,000 new books a year (many of which we catalogue from scratch) we struggle to find enough time to tackle our retrospective cataloguing project. Having used RDA for a few months now it is obvious to me that there is a very real need to keep tweaking some instructions and I think that because of this updates are not only inevitable but desirable. However, I think many libraries will find adopting the new standard very hard and staying aware of and implementing numerous updates almost impossible.
Any effort to summarise, simplify and publicise updates would be a great help for many of us.
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I’m Jeannine Carroll, Stock Team Leader in the Libraries’ Hub at Bedford Borough Council. I’m also a new CIG representative on the CILIP/BL Committee on RDA.
Like Andrew we buy in most of our catalogue records and have a hybrid system. Our LMS is not updated for the new MARC fields though, so we are losing some information when we import. At the moment we don’t use RDA for any records that are created in-house and, much as I would like this to change, I’m not sure we will ever have the time or the staff to implement it. Again like Andrew, we have lost all our qualified specialists as they’ve retired, so I’ve taken over as a para-professional and have been training other members of staff to check and create catalogue records.
Jeannine Carroll
Stock Team Leader
The Libraries’ Hub, Bedford Borough Council, Riverside Building, Cauldwell Street, Bedford MK42 9AP
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I was expecting to lurk for the same reason as Martin.
We have not implemented RDA so far as the very limited amount of original cataloguing or updates that we do, is concerned.
On the other hand our LMS is updated for new MARC fields and most of the records we import are to RDA standards so you could say that we are de facto a hybrid system.
As our two specialist cataloguers retired/ were made redundant and I have enough other things going on there is little prospect of any RDA implementation other than as described above
Andrew Coburn
Acquisitions & Cataloguing Librarian
Customer Operations - Libraries
Essex County Council
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Good to hear from you Martin. I wonder how typical your experience is of institutions in the UK. Is there anyone else out there in the same position? Or anyone who has actually tackled the updates?
Alan Danskin
Metadata Standards Manager
British Library
Boston Spa
Wetherby
West Yorkshire
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Sent: 12 May 2015 10:27
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Subject: RE: CIG e-forum: RDA Updates and Developments: Welcome
Hi
I’m Martin, Metadata Manager from the University of Liverpool. Here are my responses to the initial set of questions:
Q1: Were you aware of the RDA update? How did you become aware of it? Should have been but haven’t been paying enough attention to the RDA list!
Q2: To what extent were you aware of the changes before the Update was released? Not very
Q3: What is your plan for implementing the Update? When we actually apply RDA
Q4: What are the barriers to implementation in your institution? Deprioritization of cataloguing from Senior Managers, Heavy reduction of staff involved in cataloguing, priority of changing library system
Q5: What impact do you anticipate the changes will have on workflows? Very little, as with RDA even when we implement it
Q6: What are your views on the frequency and scope of RDA Updates? Doesn’t seem too heavy, but then we’re not using it yet – I’m partially here to see what everyone else thinks, and to get an idea what kind of workforce everyone else has for maintaining catalogues, keeping up with changes etc.
I guess I’m not part of the main target group here J
Cheers
Martin
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Sent: 12 May 2015 09:59
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Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] CIG e-forum: RDA Updates and Developments: Welcome
Good morning! Welcome to the CIG e-forum on RDA updates and developments. I’ll be co-moderating along with my colleague, Thurstan Young, and Bernadette O’Reilly (Bodleian Libraries). Gordon Dunsire, Chair of the Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA, will also be joining us during the course of the day. We’re delighted to have a number of people signed up to the e-forum and are looking forward to sharing knowledge, experience and questions. We’ll have a lunch break between 12.30 and 2.00, but please feel free to keep posting over this time as well. We will be wrapping up at 4pm.
Broadly, the day is divided into a morning and afternoon session. We have suggested some questions and issues for discussion in this session.
Tuesday morning session 10.00-12.30: RDA Update
Q1: Were you aware of the RDA update? How did you become aware of it?
Q2: To what extent were you aware of the changes before the Update was released?
Q3: What is your plan for implementing the Update?
Q4: What are the barriers to implementation in your institution?
Q5: What impact do you anticipate the changes will have on workflows?
Q6: What are your views on the frequency and scope of RDA Updates?
These will help give some direction to our discussions but they aren’t set in stone, so don't feel you can't post something you want to talk about if you are only around at a particular time of day.
If you are posting about something new, please put a relevant title in your subject so that those participating can keep track of conversations more easily.
On a practical note it might be worth me mentioning at the start of the day that messages sometimes take a little while to appear on JISCmail lists. Iif your message doesn't appear straight away then please don't worry or re-send. We're not moderating the list, so it will get through.
So, to kick us off for today, please feel free to introduce yourselves to the list and let us know where you are with the Update.
Alan
Alan Danskin
British Library representative to Joint Steering Committee for Development of RDA
Metadata Standards Manager
British Library
Boston Spa
Wetherby
West Yorkshire
LS23 7BQ
Tel: +44(0)1937 546669
mobile: 07833401117
ISNI: 0000 0001 1825 6037
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