Of course, if you are working with a .docx instead of a .doc file in Word2011 for a Mac, you can always simply insert and “Equation” directly, rather than the MathType version of Microsoft Equation under the “Insert/Objects” menu. This seems to work fairly seamlessly, unless you convert the .docx document back to .doc
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From: Murpholino Peligro <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Reply-To: Murpholino Peligro <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Date: Monday, May 18, 2015 at 12:12 PM
To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Equation Editor woes with Office 2011 for Mac
sharelatex ....makes them learn latex, because they can see the output and the input...
also they can play with lots of examples....
2015-05-18 9:57 GMT-05:00 Thomas, Jens <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>:
Hi Randy,
It's not ideal, but until the bug gets fixed or there's a more elegant solution, could you just set up your own autosave?
It'd mean opening a terminal and running a command before starting, but if you had a little script like the below running while you were working you'd at least ensure you wouldn't lose too much work if something crashed:
#!/bin/bash
[[ $# -ne 1 ]] && echo "Usage: $0 <path_to_file>" && exit 1
while true;
do
cp $1 ${1}.bak
sleep 60
done
Best wishes,
Jens
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Sent: 18 May 2015 09:10
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Subject: [ccp4bb] Equation Editor woes with Office 2011 for Mac
Rather off-topic, but maybe someone on the list has found a way to work around this!
There’s a problem with the Equation Editor in Office 2011 for Mac (i.e. the one that is based on a stripped-down version of MathType, which you get with Insert->Object->Microsoft Equation). You can insert an equation, re-open it and edit it several times, and then suddenly (and seemingly randomly) the equation object will be replaced by a picture showing the equation, which can no longer be edited. I’m writing a rather equation-heavy paper at the moment, and this is driving me crazy.
This seems to be a known bug, which has existed from the release of Office 2011. Apparently it happens, unpredictably, when an AutoSave copy of the document is saved, so you can avoid it by turning off the AutoSave feature. The last time this drove me crazy, several years ago, I did try turning off AutoSave. For a while, I was very good about manually saving frequently, but I got into bad habits and eventually Word crashed after I had worked for several hours on a grant proposal without manually saving. So I turned AutoSave back on.
At the moment, the least-bad solution seems to be to turn off AutoSave while I’m working on a document with lots of equations and then (hopefully) remember to turn it back on after that document is finished. But it would be great if someone has come up with a better cure for this problem.
No doubt someone will suggest switching from Word to LaTeX, but I need to be able to collaborate on paper-writing, and even though I might be willing to invest the effort in learning LaTeX, I can’t really expect that of my collaborators. Most people in our field do use Microsoft Word, regardless of its failings. I’ve also tried using the professional version of MathType, but that requires your collaborators to install it as well — and I don’t think that cured the equation to picture problem anyway.
Thanks!
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