I try to implement a spatial intrinsic Gaussian Markov random field model (order = 1) in openBugs via the car.normal() distribution. For a regular 3x3 grid it works fine. But if I increase the sample size (say 4x4) I get an error. Why? I am grateful for hints... Here is a minimal example, that does not work for 4x4 (but for 3x3 it does): The file "model.txt": model{ # likelihoood for(i in 1:No){ Y[i] ~ dnorm(Z[i], tau) } Z[1:No] ~ car.normal(adj[], weights[], num[], kappa) for(k in 1:Nw) { weights[k] <- 1 } # prior kappa ~ dgamma(1, 1) tau ~ dgamma(1, 1) } And the "data.txt" for a 4x4 grid: list(No = 16, Y = c(0.67,0.88,0.38,0.1,0.78,0.67,0.25,0.55,0.11,0.85,0.46,0.5,0.47,0.38,0.21,0.97), adj = c( 5,2, 6,1,3, 7,2,4, 8,3, 1,9,6, 2,10,5,7, 6,14,9,11, 4,12,7, 5,13,10, 3,11,6,8, 7,15,10,12, 8,16,11, 9,14, 10,13,15, 11,14,16, 12,15), num = c(2,3,3,2,3,4,4,3,3,4,4,3,2,3,3,2), Nw = 48) I run it in R (other options are possible): require(R2OpenBUGS) bugs(data="data.txt", inits=function(){list(tau=10, kappa=100, Z = rep(c(-.5,.5),8))}, parameters=c("Z","tau","kappa"), model.file="model.txt", n.chains=1, n.iter=150, n.burnin=1) The error is: OpenBUGS version 3.2.2 rev 1063 model is syntactically correct data loaded model compiled error for node Z[1] of type SpatialCARNormal.Node first argument Graph18 error pos 260 (error on line 1) error for node Z[1] of type SpatialCARNormal.Node first argument Graph18 model must be initialized before updating model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before DIC can be monitored model must be initialized before updating model must be initialized before monitors used model must be initialized before monitors used DIC monitor not set ------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is for discussion of modelling issues and the BUGS software. For help with crashes and error messages, first mail [log in to unmask] To mail the BUGS list, mail to [log in to unmask] Before mailing, please check the archive at www.jiscmail.ac.uk/lists/bugs.html Please do not mail attachments to the list. To leave the BUGS list, send LEAVE BUGS to [log in to unmask] If this fails, mail [log in to unmask], NOT the whole list