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Dear Girolamo. It is very usefull. Thank you best wishes Aldona 2015-04-16 18:26 GMT+02:00 Girolamo fiorentino < [log in to unmask]>: > Dear Aldona > I hope that our paper is usefull for your work. > All the best > Girolamo > > > > > Prof. Girolamo Fiorentino > Laboratory of Archaeobotany and Palaeoecology > Department of Cultural Heritage > University of Salento > Via D. Birago, 64 > 73100 Lecce - Italy > > > > > Thank you all for the info. We usually try to proof something unusual, > > especially in our modern world and now it seems that acorns were only > > eaten > > by humans in the past... Of course I can imagine that nobody fed animals > > from pots or prepared acorns for them by roasting. But what if we found > > acorns in a small storage pit accompanied by twigs and seeds/fruits of > > grassland plants? Of course not only. There are also typical cultivars in > > the pit. That is not clear. > > Didn't people collect fodder for winters? In forested lanscape with > > natural, hungry carnivors (like wolves and neighbours:) winters were > > dangerous. If they did, what was used for storing? Why not pits? > > Thank you all for a lot of data and litarature. It is and will be studied > > With my best wishes > > Aldona > > > > 2015-04-16 16:17 GMT+02:00 Anaya Sarpaki <[log in to unmask]>: > > > >> Hi Aldona, > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes as both Tania Valamoti and Helmut Kroll have mentioned, we do not > >> need > >> to consider acorns as fodder only. With some kind of processing they > >> could > >> be eaten. The ancient Arcadians (Greece) were known as the acorn > >> eaters….! > >> > >> > >> > >> Best to you, Anaya > >> > >> > >> > >> *From:* The archaeobotany mailing list [mailto: > >> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Helmut Kroll > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 11:56 PM > >> > >> *To:* [log in to unmask] > >> *Subject:* Re: acorns > >> > >> > >> > >> I do believe that these Bronze Age acorns are sweet acorns. There is Qu. > >> virgiliana, an oak of the pubescens-family. With unknow distribution and > >> history. > >> > >> Always peeled and in halves. For Human consumption. Food. Not fodder. > >> > >> > >> Am 15.04.2015 um 15:52 schrieb Aldona Mueller-Bieniek > >> <[log in to unmask] > >> >: > >> > >> Hi Mark, > >> > >> thank you for the link. > >> > >> I've just registered and received pdf of the thesis Sarah Manson > >> > >> All the best > >> > >> Aldona > >> > >> > >> > >> 2015-04-15 14:37 GMT+02:00 Mark Nesbitt <[log in to unmask]>: > >> > >> Many UK theses, including Sarah's, are now available as free download > >> (or, > >> if wished, reasonably priced bound copy) from the British Library: > >> > >> http://ethos.bl.uk/ > >> > >> E.g. Sarah's > >> http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=4&uin=uk.bl.ethos.274576 > >> > >> In the past this excluded theses from Oxford & Cambridge; some are now > >> available and will have a link from Ethos to the relevant institutional > >> depository. > >> > >> Mark > >> ________________________________________ > >> From: The archaeobotany mailing list <[log in to unmask]> on > >> behalf of Simone Riehl <[log in to unmask]> > >> Sent: 15 April 2015 12:05 > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: Re: acorns > >> > >> > >> Dear Aldona, > >> > >> as concerns the ethnography the Ph.D. thesis of Sarah Mason would be a > >> good source: Acorns in Human Subsistence. London, 1992. > >> I think it was never published, but maybe someone would have a PDF. > >> And another reference by the same author: > >> Mason, S., 1995. Acornutopia? Determining the role of acorns in past > >> subsistence, in: Wilkins, J., Harvey, D., Dobson, M. (Eds.), Food in > >> antiquity, University of Exeter Press, Exeter, pp. 12-24. > >> > >> All the best, > >> Simone > >> > >> Zitat von Aldona Mueller-Bieniek <[log in to unmask]>: > >> > >> > Dear Colleagues, > >> > Could you give me any information about massive finds of acorns and > >> their > >> > context? We have such a find dated to the Bronze Age, located in SE > >> Poland > >> > (Lipnik near Przeworsk). I already had some access to Buurman J. 1986; > >> > Jorgensen G. 1977; Karg S. and Haas JN 1996 and Vencl S. 1985. In all > >> cases > >> > acorns are discussed more like food than fodder. In our situation it > >> seems > >> > that acorns could represent rather fodder - on the basis of context of > >> > diaspores and charcoal. Do anybody have examples of mixed storages of > >> food > >> > and fodder? How is it noted in ethnographic studies? Were those types > >> of > >> > storages always/usually separated? My intuition says - not, but I > >> don't > >> > have proper data. I would be grateful for any help. > >> > With my best wishes > >> > Aldona > >> > > >> > -- > >> > dr hab. Aldona Mueller-Bieniek > >> > Institute of Botany PAS > >> > Lubicz 46 > >> > PL31-512 Kraków > >> > 0048 12 42 41 754 > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PD Dr. Simone Riehl > >> Institut für Naturwissenschaftliche Archäologie, Universität > >> Tübingen > >> und Senckenberg Center for Human Evolution and Palaeoenvironment (HEP) > >> Rümelinstraße 23 > >> 72070 Tübingen > >> > >> [log in to unmask] > >> [log in to unmask] > >> Tel. +49 (0)7071 2978915 > >> http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Simone_Riehl > >> http://uni-tuebingen.academia.edu/SimoneRiehl > >> http://www.ademnes.de > >> > >> Senckenberg Gesellschaft für Naturforschung > >> Rechtsfähiger Verein gemäß § 22 BGB > >> Senckenberganlage 25 > >> 60325 Frankfurt > >> Direktorium: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. Volker Mosbrugger, Prof. Dr. Andreas > >> Mulch, Prof. Dr. h.c. 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