As in Hollywood, sincerity in poetry is easily faked.
"*Vraiment*,
Poetry can be so many more things
Than what people mostly believe it is."
--Anselm Hollo
Halvard Johnson
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On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Tim Allen <
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> Can't let this pass. 'Slippery fish' sincerity certainly is, especially
> when used in the same sentence with 'true facts'.
>
> I wanted to come in on this when Bill said that thing about a word must
> never precede an idea, something which is not just problematic but probably
> impossible- but I never because it gets into that tricky realm of whether
> ideas are always made of words and if not what? pictures, feelings etc -
> but then when pictures or feelings get transferred into ideas don't words
> get involved? - don't go there, it's a swamp. So I didn't. I know that if I
> sat around waiting for an 'idea' before writing a poem I might have written
> about 20 poems in my life instead of 2000 etc - mind you, they might be 20
> very long poems.
>
> Seriously though, sincerity is a real sod to talk about in relation to
> poetry. The multiplicity of voices and tricks of utterance that are
> involved in poetry (never mind the variety of functions that poetry can
> perform) make the normal meaning of sincerity meaningless, and that
> includes the kind of sincerity that Andrew seems to be referring to.
>
> Sincerity in poetry is something else, something that has nothing to do
> with 'true facts', whatever they are.
>
> Cheers
>
> Tim A.
>
> On 16 Mar 2015, at 05:06, Andrew Burke wrote:
>
> > Oh what a slippery fish sincerity is when speaking of creativity. For my
> > practice, the 'true facts' are my basic sincerity, as I see them or
> > remember them, written in plain language
>
