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Thanks David You clarify what I assumed, and continue to observe, that when subjects are grouped together for administrative convenience; the parts don't necessarily add up form a greater whole. And, sometimes it is more a political than practical alliance. Although as someone who trained in a School of Art and Design, the diversity and richness of the student experience that observed impromptu performance art shows, and fashion students parading through the coffee bar everyday, was something to behold, enjoy, and learn about. I need to think about this more in terms of relevance to urban systems! Regards Robert Dr. Robert Harland | Lecturer in Visual Communication (Graphic Design) | School of Arts, English and Drama | Loughborough University | http://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/sota/staff/robert-harland/ On 21/03/2015 01:52, "David Sless" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >Hi Robert, > >As I recall ŚArt and Designą in that period 1960s and 70s was also an >administrative category in higher education. Itąs formalisation during >that period was about institutions, government funding and diplomas and >degree awards within those institutions. The bureaucratic writing around >and about those institutions would have generated endless repetition the >terms. Intellectually it was always deeply problematic as many of us who >worked in these institutions discovered. > >David >-- > > > > > >blog: http://communication.org.au/blo <http://communication.org.au/blo>g/ >web: http://communication.org.au <http://communication.org.au/> > >Professor David Sless BA MSc FRSA >CEO € Communication Research Institute € >€ helping people communicate with people € > >Mobile: +61 (0)412 356 795 >Phone: +61 (03) 9005 5903 >Skype: davidsless > >60 Park Street € Fitzroy North € Melbourne € Australia € 3068 > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> >Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design >Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design >----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- PhD-Design mailing list <[log in to unmask]> Discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design Subscribe or Unsubscribe at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/phd-design -----------------------------------------------------------------